Joe Cipale
Since WHEN has common sense and keen observation been a requisite for survival for Modern man? That (Common Sense) was eliminated with the
invention of the Winchester in the late 1800's.
Joe
Randy Dreiling wrote:
> Isn't PIR a race track...hello it is a race track has
> been for years...some people need to get a life...if
> you lived there or bought a house there you should
> know hey there is a race track there
> HELLO!
>
> --- Joe Cipale wrote:
>
> > I understand Emilie Boyles is available for around
> > 100K...
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Keith A. Prior wrote:
> >
> > > PIR, etcBut what would us bicycle racers do with
> > ourselves if we didn't
> > > overreact?!!
> > >
> > > Now if we could just find a way to ban those
> > little noisy little 47cc pocket
> > > motorbikes!!!
> > >
> > > The police told me I can't hang piano wire across
> > the street!
> > >
> > > Does anyone know someone at Metro we can buy off?
> > >
> > > -K
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> > [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Dan Houghton
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:49 PM
> > > To: Evan MacKenzie; obra@list.obra.org
> > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR, etc
> > >
> > >
> > > Settle down, everyone. PIR is not going to move
> > or close. This complaint
> > > from neighborhood associations comes up whenever
> > they get bored with more
> > > important issues.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Evan MacKenzie
> > > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:23 AM
> > > Subject: [OBRA Chat] PIR, etc
> > >
> > >
> > > OK, so I sent this one off:
> > >
> > > I hear there is talk about moving PIR. Would
> > this be a closure and an
> > > actual move, or just a closure?
> > >
> > > What you may not realize is the fact that not
> > only is PIR home to a
> > > whole slew of auto racing events, but it is also
> > home to a large number of
> > > bicycle events as well, with the capacity for even
> > more. All summer long
> > > there are road races on the track Monday and
> > Tuesday nights. There are also
> > > mountain bike short track races on the infield,
> > and cyclocross races in the
> > > fall. PIR is a wonderful resource for the entire
> > Oregon cycling community
> > > that would be sorely missed.
> > >
> > > I can?t believe that moving PIR to somewhere
> > in the Rivergate area would
> > > significantly lower noise. I also believe that if
> > the track were relocated,
> > > it would give people an excuse to try to place
> > additional restrictions on
> > > the operations there. Lets all face it, PIR has
> > been there a while and the
> > > people who live in the area know that. When I
> > lived in the Alameda area I
> > > occasionally heard noise from the track. Hey,
> > that?s what happens when you
> > > have auto racing.
> > >
> > > By the way, bikes don?t make much noise, don?t
> > consume massive amounts
> > > of fuel or pollute the air. But that doesn?t mean
> > cyclists don?t get a whole
> > > lot of use out of the track and grounds.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (not part of the letter)
> > >
> > > For the record, I went down to Sea Otter a
> > couple weeks ago. I was
> > > talking to a local about Laguna Seca one day. He
> > said that when LS was
> > > built, it was way out in the sticks. Then as the
> > trophy house sprawl crept
> > > out into the hills, and they started filling up
> > with multi-million dollar
> > > homes, the owners hired fancy lawyers and sued,
> > and successfully got a noise
> > > cap placed on the raceway. Now racers have to
> > modify their cars in order to
> > > use LS, which as you can imagine they really don?t
> > like. That means there is
> > > this great facility that has now become
> > underutilized because of restriction
> > > placed on it after the fact. Of course, all the
> > richies knew full well that
> > > Laguna Seca was there.
> > >
> > > If that happened in Oregon, it would be an
> > interesting test of Measure
> > > 37. But we don?t need that, because someone else
> > right here in Washington
> > > County is testing that very idea. And if you knew
> > anything about it, I?m
> > > sure you?d support their claim. I can?t say much
> > beyond that, but suffice to
> > > say the cycling community also has an interest in
> > this case. More to come
> > > later.
> > >
> > > -Evan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Evan MacKenzie
> > >
> > > Urban Planner I
> > >
> > > City of Hillsboro
> > >
> > > 150 E. Main Street, 4th floor
> > >
> > > Hillsboro, OR 97123
> > >
> > > 503-681-6154
> > >
> > > evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------- __o
> > > ---------- _ '\<,_
> > > ----------(_)/ (_)______Get on your bikes and
> > ride!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> Randy Dreiling
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