Matthew Wolpert
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On 4/26/06, Craig Austin wrote:
> I think probably email is the biggest one.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Matthew Wolpert
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:32 PM
> To: joec@aracnet.com
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR, etc SPAM - OFF TOPIC - NO NUTRITIONAL
> VALUE
>
> Dude, how about fire, 100,000 years ago. ;)
>
> On 4/26/06, Joe Cipale wrote:
> > Since WHEN has common sense and keen observation been a requisite for
> > survival for Modern man? That (Common Sense) was eliminated with the
> invention of the Winchester in the late 1800's.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Randy Dreiling wrote:
> >
> > > Isn't PIR a race track...hello it is a race track has been for
> > > years...some people need to get a life...if you lived there or
> > > bought a house there you should know hey there is a race track there
>
> > > HELLO!
> > >
> > > --- Joe Cipale wrote:
> > >
> > > > I understand Emilie Boyles is available for around 100K...
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > Keith A. Prior wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > PIR, etcBut what would us bicycle racers do with
> > > > ourselves if we didn't
> > > > > overreact?!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Now if we could just find a way to ban those
> > > > little noisy little 47cc pocket
> > > > > motorbikes!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > The police told me I can't hang piano wire across
> > > > the street!
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know someone at Metro we can buy off?
> > > > >
> > > > > -K
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> > > > [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
> > > > > Behalf Of Dan Houghton
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:49 PM
> > > > > To: Evan MacKenzie; obra@list.obra.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR, etc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Settle down, everyone. PIR is not going to move
> > > > or close. This complaint
> > > > > from neighborhood associations comes up whenever
> > > > they get bored with more
> > > > > important issues.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Evan MacKenzie
> > > > > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:23 AM
> > > > > Subject: [OBRA Chat] PIR, etc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, so I sent this one off:
> > > > >
> > > > > I hear there is talk about moving PIR. Would
> > > > this be a closure and an
> > > > > actual move, or just a closure?
> > > > >
> > > > > What you may not realize is the fact that not
> > > > only is PIR home to a
> > > > > whole slew of auto racing events, but it is also
> > > > home to a large number of
> > > > > bicycle events as well, with the capacity for even
> > > > more. All summer long
> > > > > there are road races on the track Monday and
> > > > Tuesday nights. There are also
> > > > > mountain bike short track races on the infield,
> > > > and cyclocross races in the
> > > > > fall. PIR is a wonderful resource for the entire
> > > > Oregon cycling community
> > > > > that would be sorely missed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't believe that moving PIR to somewhere
> > > > in the Rivergate area would
> > > > > significantly lower noise. I also believe that if
> > > > the track were relocated,
> > > > > it would give people an excuse to try to place
> > > > additional restrictions on
> > > > > the operations there. Lets all face it, PIR has
> > > > been there a while and the
> > > > > people who live in the area know that. When I
> > > > lived in the Alameda area I
> > > > > occasionally heard noise from the track. Hey,
> > > > that's what happens when you
> > > > > have auto racing.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, bikes don't make much noise, don't
> > > > consume massive amounts
> > > > > of fuel or pollute the air. But that doesn't mean
> > > > cyclists don't get a whole
> > > > > lot of use out of the track and grounds.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > (not part of the letter)
> > > > >
> > > > > For the record, I went down to Sea Otter a
> > > > couple weeks ago. I was
> > > > > talking to a local about Laguna Seca one day. He
> > > > said that when LS was
> > > > > built, it was way out in the sticks. Then as the
> > > > trophy house sprawl crept
> > > > > out into the hills, and they started filling up
> > > > with multi-million dollar
> > > > > homes, the owners hired fancy lawyers and sued,
> > > > and successfully got a noise
> > > > > cap placed on the raceway. Now racers have to
> > > > modify their cars in order to
> > > > > use LS, which as you can imagine they really don't
> > > > like. That means there is
> > > > > this great facility that has now become
> > > > underutilized because of restriction
> > > > > placed on it after the fact. Of course, all the
> > > > richies knew full well that
> > > > > Laguna Seca was there.
> > > > >
> > > > > If that happened in Oregon, it would be an
> > > > interesting test of Measure
> > > > > 37. But we don't need that, because someone else
> > > > right here in Washington
> > > > > County is testing that very idea. And if you knew
> > > > anything about it, I'm
> > > > > sure you'd support their claim. I can't say much
> > > > beyond that, but suffice to
> > > > > say the cycling community also has an interest in
> > > > this case. More to come
> > > > > later.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Evan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Evan MacKenzie
> > > > >
> > > > > Urban Planner I
> > > > >
> > > > > City of Hillsboro
> > > > >
> > > > > 150 E. Main Street, 4th floor
> > > > >
> > > > > Hillsboro, OR 97123
> > > > >
> > > > > 503-681-6154
> > > > >
> > > > > evanm@ci.hillsboro.or.us
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > http://www.ci.hillsboro.or.us/Planning_Department/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > ride!
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