Luciano bailey
I think that this mirrors OBRA's combined fiields scored seperately scenario
which I believe was the in a reply I sent out earlier on. Of all the
equitable possibilities this offers the best age graded results, while
stilling allowing a racer to chose the level of self sacrifice should he or
she decide to race a non masters categorie.
>From: Rick C Johnson
>Reply-To: RCJohnson1@attglobal.net
>To: Gordon Cumming
>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
>Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:52:17 -0800
>
>Humm, on my visits to England I noticed that the people there were
>typical of the other human specimens I have encountered in my visits to
>places closer to home such as California, Nevada, Idaho and Washington.
>Same configuration of appendages and sensory organs, exhibiting the
>normal range of humanoid biological functions and displaying the
>customary differences in sexual behavior. Further they appeared also to
>be subject to the same laws of aging and I saw that bicycles were ridden
>in exactly the same manner as bicycles found elsewhere.
>
>My conclusion would then be that considering how the English conduct
>their bicycle racing is entirely relevant in the context of the current
>discussion.
>
>Traditional English food however is entirely a different matter...
>
>Rick
>
>Gordon Cumming wrote:
>
> >Do we live near England? How about see what California, Nevada, Idaho,
>and Washington do. They may be a bit more relevant than jolly old England
>or Europe for that matter.
> >
> >Gordon
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >From: "Alec Bentley"
> >
> >
> >>Hi George,
> >>
> >>In the UK you have to be 40 to join the League of Veteran Racing
>Cyclists
> >>(LVRC).
> >>
> >>Alec
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: gschreckchat@comcast.net
> >>>To: "Alec Bentley" , obra@list.obra.org
> >>>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
> >>>Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:06:30 +0000
> >>>
> >>>Did you say it starts at 40?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>
> >>>George Schreck
> >>>gschreckchat@comcast.net
> >>>(503) 502-0425
> >>>
> >>>-------------- Original message --------------
> >>>From: "Alec Bentley"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Perhaps some of you who have been following or contributing to the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>debate on
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>if Master categories should commence at 35 or 40 may be interested to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>know
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>how it works in the UK and most of Europe.
> >>>>
> >>>>The British League of Veteran Racing Cyclists (www.lvrc.org if you are
> >>>>interested) has a category every 5-years commencing at 40. Therefore
>if
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>you
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>are 40 to 44 you are a Category A, 45 to 49 you are a Category B all
>the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>way
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>up to 70 to 74 you are a Category G then over 75 is designated as
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Category
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>H.
> >>>>
> >>>>Each race promoter decides how many different races to promote
>depending
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>on
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>budgets and the number of riders in each category who register.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Typically
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>it is A&B?s (40 to 49) / C&D?s (50 to 59) / EFG&H?s. (60+)
> >>>>
> >>>>Regardless of how many separate races are promoted results are posted
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>for
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>each 5-year category.
> >>>>
> >>>>This has been a very successful formula in the UK and Europe where
>there
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>are
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>numerous races for Master age riders.
> >>>>
> >>>>A couple of other points about the UK system. Woman Masters, (Ladies
>in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>UK) can compete with Men Masters and are given a 10-year benefit. As
>an
> >>>>example 40 to 44 year old woman would compete with the 50 to 54 old
>men.
> >>>>
> >>>>? The LVRC allows (encouraged, in fact) riders to compete in an older
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>age
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>group than their calendar age indicates. This is deliberately designed
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>help people get back into racing, and move up the groups as fitness
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>starts
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>to return.?
> >>>>
> >>>>Alec Bentley
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: "Mike Murray"
> >>>>>Reply-To: mike.murray@obra.org
> >>>>>To:
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
> >>>>>Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:08:01 -0800
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There are often references to the mythic 18 yo bike racer. Frankly
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>there
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>are not many of them. Most are slower category. From the end of this
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>year
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>the age distribution of road members was:
> >>>>>
> >>>>><20 169
> >>>>>20to24 133
> >>>>>25to29 264
> >>>>>30to34 398
> >>>>>35to39 466
> >>>>>40to44 371
> >>>>>45to49 266
> >>>>>50to54 148
> >>>>>55to59 74
> >>>>>60to64 34
> >>>>>65+ 24
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Here are the mean ages by road category:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>1 33
> >>>>>2 36
> >>>>>3 38
> >>>>>4 36
> >>>>>5 36
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Overall the mean OBRA membership age is 37. 35+ is most of us.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike Murray
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>On
> >>>>>Behalf Of Edward Kendrick Sr
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 06:48 AM
> >>>>>To: obra@list.obra.org
> >>>>>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Yes. It would be nice to have the 35+ category.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Most of the riders, who act their age, choose to ride cat 4 or 5.
>This
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>is
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>awkward, when there are 18 yr olds competing with you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Did you know that a big chunk of the Arctic shelf broke off today?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Anyway, Feliz Ano Nuevo.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message ----
> >>>>>From: Dave Campbell
> >>>>>To: obra
> >>>>>Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:08:39 AM
> >>>>>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Just going to throw this totally self-interested bit out there...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>VERY few races last yr had a Masters 35 plus, with most going 40 plus
> >>>>>Was this trend well-recieved by riders? I see that Cherry Pie (and my
> >>>>>guess
> >>>>>is most of the others that follow) is going Masters 40 plus and the
> >>>>>promoter
> >>>>>(who is well experienced!) assures me this is the way to go.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>For ME at this point, the 35 plus races are FUN (although due to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>triathlon,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>I personally only do a few and mainly for training) and I can
>actually
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>race
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>as opposed to the Cat1/2 race which I just try to survive and I would
> >>>>>assume
> >>>>>there are others that feel the same way...the question is ARE THERE
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>ENOUGH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>like minded 35-39s like me?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Anyone?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>DC
> >>>>>Dave Campbell
> >>>>>adcampbell46@earthlink.net
> >>>>>EarthLink Revolves Around You.
> >>>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Alec Bentley"
> >>>To: obra@list.obra.org
> >>>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
> >>>Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 01:01:55 +0000
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> > Subject:
> > Re: [OBRA Chat] Masters 35 Plus?
> > From:
> > "Alec Bentley"
> > Date:
> > Thu, 4 Jan 2007 02:22:46 +0000
> > To:
> > gschreckchat@comcast.net, obra@list.obra.org
> >
> > To:
> > gschreckchat@comcast.net, obra@list.obra.org
> >
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