David Oliphant
OLN is now called Versus - VS
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From:
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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> Never mind my message last week, I went home and checked and yes we do
> in fact have OLN/Versus with our basic service. Not sure what happened
> in that short period last year. What ever it was, glad to have it now.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Jef Fowler
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:38 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
> Follow-up from last message
>
> I live in Lair Hill just SW of Ross Island bridge (great view of the
> tram).
>
> I got cable for the internet access and bought into basic (same cost as
> for Qwest DSL after dropping the landline phone). It could be that
> there is more bandwidth when internet access is included.
>
> Back in MA I cancelled the cable TV, kept cable internet but always had
> access to local TV and premium basic (CNN etc). It never went away.
> Any cable-guys here care to explain?
>
> Jef
>
>
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> 1. 'Cross Photos from Mark Matson (P Kudszus)
> 2. Teams 2 (Quenton Conant)
> 3. OT: looking for realtors (Chris Harnish, M.S.)
> 4. FS: Dura Ace WH-7801-SL wheelset new price (Ryan Weaver)
> 5. Re: OT: looking for realtors (l j)
> 6. Re: OT: looking for realtors (Thomas Hoffman)
> 7. 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial (Erik Voldengen)
> 8. Photos: Cleaning House (shane.young@comcast.net)
> 9. Bad News from Comcast (John Schader)
> 10. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Erik Voldengen)
> 11. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Aaron.Leritz@CH2M.com)
> 12. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Denham, Mitch)
> 13. Re: Bad News from Comcast (garymedley@comcast.net)
> 14. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Ben Rasche)
> 15. Re: Bad News from Comcast (Thomas Hoffman)
> 16. Re: 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial (Glen Gann)
> 17. Team Expresscopy Event (oregonyankee@comcast.net)
> 18. PACE Trek Across America - The Sequel (Heather VanValkenburg)
> 19. Free nightrider accesories (Michael Benno)
> 20. FS: 105 Fr. Derailleur 10 speed (Tim Schauer)
> 21. Re: Bad News from Comcast (david baker)
> 22. CCX Worlds Jr's (Wade Goff)
> 23. 2007 XTR wheelset (Brig Brandt)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:44:27 -0800 (PST)
> From: P Kudszus
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 'Cross Photos from Mark Matson
> To: OBRA
> Message-ID: <196032.16739.qm@web53712.mail.yahoo.com>
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> http://www.cyclocrossworld.com/Pictures.cfm?t=2&tKey=643&ShowDisabled=0&
> C=2&
> back2=home
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:03:44 -0800
> From: "Quenton Conant"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Teams 2
> To: obra@list.obra.org
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>
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the same boat as Eric Y. I' m looking for a team that has space
> available for 4/5 members. I don't minds racing solo, but the more I
> think about it the more I like the idea of having people to work with,
> and people to train with. I think one can only get to be so good by
> themselves, that they need a team to develop the rest.
>
> Any eastside, or close in teams?
> Regards,
> Quenton
>
> --
> " There is nothing but atoms and space,
> everything else is only an opinion"
> - Democritus from Abdera
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:53:09 -0500
> From: "Chris Harnish, M.S."
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <45BA7845.8010508@verizon.net>
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> Ditto for me too...always looking for options other than renting.
>
> --
> Best Wishes,
>
> Chris Harnish, M.S., HFI
> Exercise Physiologist & Coach
> ESP Training Systems
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:09:18 -0800
> From: "Ryan Weaver"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: Dura Ace WH-7801-SL wheelset new price
> To: obra@list.obra.org
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>
>>Brand New
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>>
>>Features
>> Lighter weight Scandium alloy rims
>> Both road tubeless and regular tube and tire compatible
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>>reg $980
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> I love these wheels, but I already own one pair. Don't need two
> pairs.
>>
> Weaver
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:11:12 -0800
> From: l j
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
> To: "Chris Harnish, M.S." ,
>
> Cc: "petersonsonja@hasson.com"
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>
> Sonja Peterson is a good realtor and a fellow cyclist.
> cell 503-890-4040
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:53:09 -0500
>> From: peoplecycle@verizon.net
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
>>
>> Ditto for me too...always looking for options other than renting.
>>
>> --
>> Best Wishes,
>>
>> Chris Harnish, M.S., HFI
>> Exercise Physiologist & Coach
>> ESP Training Systems
>> "Unlocking the secrets to your success!"
>> www.espanswers.com
>> Ph 508.965.3863
>> Fx 508.457.1712
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:14:59 -0800
> From: "Thomas Hoffman"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
> To: "'Chris Harnish, M.S.'" ,
>
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> Hey everybody.
> I am a Realtor and I always have time for referrals form my OBRA
> friends.
>
> Give me a call.
>
> Thomas Hoffman
> RE/MAX equity group
> 503-495-5607 Direct
> 503-475-3417 Cell
> www.tomshometeam.com
>
> Check out this great Listing!
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Chris Harnish, M.S.
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:53 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT: looking for realtors
>
> Ditto for me too...always looking for options other than renting.
>
> --
> Best Wishes,
>
> Chris Harnish, M.S., HFI
> Exercise Physiologist & Coach
> ESP Training Systems
> "Unlocking the secrets to your success!"
> www.espanswers.com
> Ph 508.965.3863
> Fx 508.457.1712
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:52:01 -0800
> From: "Erik Voldengen"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial
> To:
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>
> The 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial is coming!
>
> February 25, 2007. Vancouver Lake Park.
>
> Entry fee is still only $10.
>
> Register online at http://www.signmeup.com/56264
>
> Or get more details at http://www.bbcbike.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:01:58 +0000
> From: shane.young@comcast.net
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Photos: Cleaning House
> To: nwcycling@topica.com , obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID:
>
> <012620072301.5708.45BA8866000419F50000164C220730079309029A0197D20A020E0
> 89C
> @comcast.net>
>
>
> Just an FYI to all those who are still interested in purchasing photos
> from last year. I will be cleaning up my site and photos from last year
> will start coming down after Feb 1st.
> Have a wonderful day,
> Shane
> www.oregonvelo.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:06:19 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Schader
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> To: OBRA
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>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>
> John
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:19:20 -0800
> From: "Erik Voldengen"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> To:
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> I don't know if you'll loose it for sure.
>
>
>
> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
> cable.
> I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in the basic
> cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their website.
>
>
>
> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
> did have OLN with basic cable.
>
>
>
> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isn't
> possible with the larger cable packages - only basic cable has enough
> penetration.
>
>
>
> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it won't. At least you can still
> watch Mythbusters ;)
>
>
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of John Schader
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
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>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:30:41 -0700
> From:
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
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> We have basic and don't get OLN any longer. When we had the full package
> OLN was on 401 or 402, something like that. Then it moved to 32 for a
> while. We downgraded to basic to wheen the kids off the cartoon network
> and was excited when we still had OLN/Versus on Channel 32. A few month
> back it disappeared from 32 (maybe when you did your poll). I don't
> believe it is part of the basic package any longer.
>
> Do others get OLN/Versus as part of their basic? I would sure like to
> know if I am just missing it.
>
> Aaron Leritz
> ________________________________
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Erik Voldengen
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:19 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> I don't know if you'll loose it for sure.
>
>
>
> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
> cable. I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in
> the basic cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on
> their website.
>
>
>
> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
> did have OLN with basic cable.
>
>
>
> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isn't
> possible with the larger cable packages - only basic cable has enough
> penetration.
>
>
>
> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it won't. At least you can still
> watch Mythbusters ;)
>
>
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of John Schader
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:37:38 -0800
> From: "Denham, Mitch"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> To: , ,
>
> Message-ID:
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> I think I still have it on basic Comcast (in Hillsboro), channel 32. I
> will check again tonight to be sure. Maybe their official answer is
> that you don't get it with basic, in case your cable connection is poor.
> Things start fading once you get to channel 34 and beyond and briefly
> re-appear at channels 69, 70, and 71 (Lifetime, E!, and AMC). At least
> at my house :-)
>
>
>
> mitch
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Aaron.Leritz@CH2M.com
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:31 PM
> To: erikv@erikv.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> We have basic and don't get OLN any longer. When we had the full package
> OLN was on 401 or 402, something like that. Then it moved to 32 for a
> while. We downgraded to basic to wheen the kids off the cartoon network
> and was excited when we still had OLN/Versus on Channel 32. A few month
> back it disappeared from 32 (maybe when you did your poll). I don't
> believe it is part of the basic package any longer.
>
>
>
> Do others get OLN/Versus as part of their basic? I would sure like to
> know if I am just missing it.
>
>
>
> Aaron Leritz
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Erik Voldengen
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:19 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
> I don't know if you'll loose it for sure.
>
>
>
> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
> cable. I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in
> the basic cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on
> their website.
>
>
>
> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
> did have OLN with basic cable.
>
>
>
> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isn't
> possible with the larger cable packages - only basic cable has enough
> penetration.
>
>
>
> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it won't. At least you can still
> watch Mythbusters ;)
>
>
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of John Schader
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:46:04 +0000
> From: garymedley@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID:
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>
> OLN, nee Versus, moved to basic cable nationwide last fall as part of
> its deal to broadcast the National Hockey Association. There's no way
> the NHL will allow Comcast to bump the NHL to a more-expensive package
> with even LESS viewers. It would be death for the NHL's already small
> advertising revenue.
>
> Unless they figure the NHL is a lost cause anyway.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>
> I dont know if youll loose it for sure.
>
> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
> cable.
> I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in the basic
> cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their website.
>
> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
> did have OLN with basic cable.
>
> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isnt
> possible with the larger cable packages only basic cable has enough
> penetration.
>
> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it wont. At least you can still
> watch Mythbusters ;)
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of John Schader
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie
> showtime shortcut.
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:54:47 -0800
> From: Ben Rasche
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> To: "Denham, Mitch" , ,
> ,
> Message-ID:
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>
> OLN/Versus worked for me last night on channel 32 of basic cable.
>
> Ben
>
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:37:38 -0800From: mitch.denham@intel.comTo:
> Aaron.Leritz@CH2M.com; erikv@erikv.com; obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re:
> [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think I still have it on basic Comcast (in Hillsboro), channel 32. I
> will check again tonight to be sure. Maybe their official answer is
> that you don?t get it with basic, in case your cable connection is poor.
> Things start fading once you get to channel 34 and beyond and briefly
> re-appear at channels 69, 70, and 71 (Lifetime, E!, and AMC). At least
> at my house J
>
> mitch
>
>
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Aaron.Leritz@CH2M.comSent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:31 PMTo:
> erikv@erikv.com; obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News
> from Comcast
>
> We have basic and don't get OLN any longer. When we had the full package
> OLN was on 401 or 402, something like that. Then it moved to 32 for a
> while. We downgraded to basic to wheen the kids off the cartoon network
> and was excited when we still had OLN/Versus on Channel 32. A few month
> back it disappeared from 32 (maybe when you did your poll). I don't
> believe it is part of the basic package any longer.
>
> Do others get OLN/Versus as part of their basic? I would sure like to
> know
> if I am just missing it.
>
>
> Aaron Leritz
>
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Erik VoldengenSent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:19 PMTo:
> obra@list.obra.orgSubject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast I don?t
> know if you?ll loose it for sure.
>
> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
> cable.
> I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in the basic
> cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their website.
>
> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
> did have OLN with basic cable.
>
> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isn?t
> possible with the larger cable packages ? only basic cable has enough
> penetration.
>
> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it won?t. At least you can still
> watch Mythbusters ;)
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of John SchaderSent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PMTo:
> OBRASubject:
> [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith theYahoo! Search movie
> showtime shortcut.
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:57:42 -0800
> From: "Thomas Hoffman"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> To:
> Message-ID: <004901c741a5$ce82b3f0$1bd1a8c0@IBM7F4965EFAF1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Try DISH network.
>
> Better Picture than Cable. And you get VS, Speed and Golf channel.
>
> If you have an HDTV there is a channel called Rush that has some real
> cool Mt Bike films in rotation. All in HD!
>
>
>
> I have a few New Client Discount cards at home if you want to convert.
> Send me an Email and I will drop them in the mail to you.
>
>
>
> Thomas Hoffman
>
> RE/MAX equity group
>
> 503-495-5607 Direct
>
> 503-475-3417 Cell
>
> www.tomshometeam.com
>
>
>
> Check out this great Listing!
>
>
> Click here
> 8>
> to view your eCard
>
> _____
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of garymedley@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:46 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> OLN, nee Versus, moved to basic cable nationwide last fall as part of
> its deal to broadcast the National Hockey Association. There's no way
> the NHL will allow Comcast to bump the NHL to a more-expensive package
> with even LESS viewers. It would be death for the NHL's already small
> advertising revenue.
>
>
>
> Unless they figure the NHL is a lost cause anyway.
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>
> I dont know if youll loose it for sure.
>
>
>
> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
> cable.
> I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in the basic
> cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their website.
>
>
>
> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed they
> did have OLN with basic cable.
>
>
>
> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights require
> broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently isnt
> possible with the larger cable packages only basic cable has enough
> penetration.
>
>
>
> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it wont. At least you can still
> watch Mythbusters ;)
>
>
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of John Schader
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill with
> the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although they
> are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find
> om/s
> hortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mailnews> a flick in no time with theYahoo!
> om/s
> hortcuts/?fr=oni_on_mailnews> Search movie showtime shortcut.
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> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:10:17 -0800
> From: "Glen Gann"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial
> To: ,
> Message-ID: <001901c741a7$87cef660$5cebd818@FamilyRoom>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> The Jack Frost is not the first race of the year?! How can this be?!
> Although I have never raced this TT, I have always been able to get an
> idea of who is riding well before the first RR. Cherry Pie will be like
> a blind date.
>
> Glen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Voldengen"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:52 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial
>
>
>> The 2007 Jack Frost Time Trial is coming!
>>
>> February 25, 2007. Vancouver Lake Park.
>>
>> Entry fee is still only $10.
>>
>> Register online at http://www.signmeup.com/56264
>>
>> Or get more details at http://www.bbcbike.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 02:00:31 +0000
> From: oregonyankee@comcast.net
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Team Expresscopy Event
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID:
>
> <012720070200.27354.45BAB23E000F30F700006ADA22007623020A0A05020E97020109
> 0A9
> D01@comcast.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> A rare opportunity is headed to Portland. International womens cycling
> team, Team Expresscopy.com, will be in Portland for one day only,
> hosting a bike symposium for women (and cycling fans) at the Multnomah
> Athletic Club January 31 at 3:00 p.m. They will also be officially
> announcing their new sponsor, Portland-based company, expresscopy.com.
>
> The teams roster includes some of the fastest women cyclists in the
> world, including a former U.S. National Champion. The symposium will
> feature a short speech by team member Anne Samplonius (current Canadian
> National Criterium Champion) and a bike clinic from the City of
> Portlands Women on Bikes organization.
>
> You can learn more about the team at www.teamexpresscopy.com. Details
> for the event follow:
>
> When:
> Wednesday, January 31, 2007
> 3:00 p.m. announcement of new sponsor, expresscopy.com; Q&A session
> with team members (for media only) 4:30 p.m. symposium begins
>
> Where:
> Multnomah Athletic Club, 1849 SW Salmon Street, Portland Parking
> provided in the parking structure adjacent to the MAC.
>
> Please RSVP to libbi@why3.com
>
> --
> Bored? Boss not looking? Surf over to my cycling blog at:
> www.OregonLive.com/weblogs/bikeblog/
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> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:12:43 -0800
> From: "Heather VanValkenburg"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] PACE Trek Across America - The Sequel
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> I got this information from my mom. I have nothing to do with this. I"m
> just posting for her from her friend...
>
>
> This guys from Missoula MT, ran across the United States (west to east)
> last year to help promote Physical Activity. This year he plans to bike
> (east to
> west) across America. He is trying to raise $4,000 to pay for gear,
> food, lodging, etc. I thought our cycling community might be able to
> help. If you can't contribute financially, he is looking for places to
> spend the night along his route and maybe someone can provide lodging.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
>>Reply-To: paul@pacerun.com
>
>>Hello From P.A.C.E. Trek!
>
> It has been 3 months since I completed my 3,260-mile run across America
> and for the past 6 weeks I have been working on an endeavor that many of
> you may believe will qualify me for a straight jacket. Between April and
> June of this year I will be crossing the continent solo once again,
> retracing the steps of P.A.C.E. Run 2006 with the wheels of P.A.C.E.
> Bike 2007. Rather than use this e-mail message to dive into the various
> "hows" and "whys" of this pending trek, I would ask for you to take a
> moment to visit www.pacetrek.com. From there you'll be able to access
> the run across America web site as well as my upcoming trek site.
>
> This trek will require two months, coast to coast, and will be from
> April 10 to June 16. My complete route is available through the web site
> and is the precise route I ran in 2006 - just going in the opposite
> direction. Okay...
> so you're probably wanting me to get right to the point on "why" I'm
> going to do this. Here it is:
>
> If you drop any small thing into water, it will cause a ripple effect
> -thus changing everything reflected on its surface. With the success of
> my 2006 solo run across America I acquired a unique message about
> health, fitness and chasing after dreams that I want to drop into the
> minds and hearts of children across America, like dropping a pebble into
> water. My hope is that it will cause a change in their lives and a
> ripple effect toward greater health, fitness, and a deeper desire to
> pursue their dreams. That's it! If my purpose resonates with you I would
> ask for any assistanceor ideas that you can offer with respect to
> lodging, funding, and/or locations for presentations (schools, clubs,
> organizations, etc.).
>
> Thank you for reading this, and I hope you visit www.pacetrek.com.
>
> "Gotta Roll",
>>
>>Paul Staso
>>P.A.C.E. Trek - "Promoting Active Children Everywhere"
>>P.O. Box 3404, Missoula, Montana 59806
>>Web Site: www.pacetrek.com
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping
> http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095&
> tcod
> e=wlmtagline
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:20:16 -0800 (PST)
> From: Michael Benno
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Free nightrider accesories
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <372289.62231.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> 2 extention cords (non-HID)
> 3 handle barmounts
> adapter for new and old style lights
> 2 standard helmet adapters
> 1 really nice stap-on helmet/head mount
>
> I'll be around on Sunday if you want em.
>
> Mike Benno
> 503-756-7587
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ____
> ________
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> in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
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> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:54:52 -0800
> From: "Tim Schauer"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: 105 Fr. Derailleur 10 speed
> To:
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> For sale: $20
>
> Brand new shimano 10 speed 105 front derailleur, double, 31.8 clamp on.
> I needed a braze on instead so now I'm selling this one!
>
> -Tim
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:45:27 -0800
> From: "david baker"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
> To: "Thomas Hoffman" ,
> Message-ID: <000e01c74232$8e116090$0205a8c0@dirtsurf>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Versus, speed and golf are not in hd yet. Versus is in hd negotiations
> of some sort. It sure would be the ultimate to watch the tour or others
> in hd.
> Directv is going to up their hd offerings this year so it may be a
> better choice for new customers.
> http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPage.jsp?assetId=P4130030
> I do sell both Directv and Dish network and currently have Dish network
> at my house.
> If you are in central oregon give us a call if you are interested.
> Para-Tech satellite 541-389-1514.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Thomas Hoffman
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
> Try DISH network.
>
> Better Picture than Cable. And you get VS, Speed and Golf channel.
>
> If you have an HDTV there is a channel called Rush that has some real
> cool Mt Bike films in rotation. All in HD!
>
>
>
> I have a few New Client Discount cards at home if you want to convert.
> Send me an Email and I will drop them in the mail to you.
>
>
>
> Thomas Hoffman
>
> RE/MAX equity group
>
> 503-495-5607 Direct
>
> 503-475-3417 Cell
>
> www.tomshometeam.com
>
>
>
> Check out this great Listing!
>
>
> Click here to view your eCard
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> --
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> On Behalf Of garymedley@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:46 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> OLN, nee Versus, moved to basic cable nationwide last fall as part of
> its deal to broadcast the National Hockey Association. There's no way
> the NHL will allow Comcast to bump the NHL to a more-expensive package
> with even LESS viewers. It would be death for the NHL's already small
> advertising revenue.
>
>
>
> Unless they figure the NHL is a lost cause anyway.
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Erik Voldengen"
>
> I dont know if youll loose it for sure.
>
>
>
> I wanted to watch the Tour de France last summer, but I did not have
> cable. I called Comcast and asked if OLN (now Versus) was included in
> the
> basic cable package. They said it was NOT. Same thing was on their
> website.
>
>
>
> I then polled this email list and I believe 20 out of 20 confirmed
> they did have OLN with basic cable.
>
>
>
> Further, I read somewhere that part of the NHL television rights
> require broadcast to hit a certain number of homes, which apparently
> isnt possible with the larger cable packages only basic cable has
> enough penetration.
>
>
>
> So maybe it will go away, but maybe it wont. At least you can
> still watch Mythbusters ;)
>
>
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> On Behalf Of John Schader
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Bad News from Comcast
>
>
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just got my Comcast bill
> with the products & services price list effective 3/7/07. RATS! Although
> they are lowering the bare bones basic service fee by 25 cents to a mere
> $8.15, they have eliminated Versus (OLN) and the Golf Channel. Now one
> needs at least "Standard Cable" at $50.89/month to get those channels.
> Come July, I'm going to miss all my favorite bull riding and BBQ
> competitions. Say it ain't so!
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time
> with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> --
>
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:47:22 -0800
> From: "Wade Goff"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] CCX Worlds Jr's
> To:
> Message-ID: <003701c7423b$337a3860$6501a8c0@laptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> OBRA's own Carson Miller (far right) in the Junior CCX World
> Championships
> today:
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2007/jan07/CXworlds07/index.php?id=/ph
> otos
> /2007/jan07/CXworlds07/CXworlds071/cw07_jr_0340_R
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:57:45 -0800
> From: Brig Brandt
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] 2007 XTR wheelset
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <45bb929924c8c_e12156376e57934101d@lizard.tmail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I am selling a brand new 2007 xtr wheelset. Never ridden. These wheels
> are light at just over 1500 grams. For $850 I will include new rotors,
> new tires (Hutchison Python Airlight), and new tubes. The wheels alone
> sell for $999.
>
>
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