Long, Steve

I think Heather was, perhaps, just complaining about them take over the machine without doing any actual work. If they are taking up a machine and not really using it, then she probably has a right to complain.

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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Robin Calver
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:58 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack

To all of you critizing folks for "hanging out" at the gym and not spinning as you would-

Who are you to critize how others spend their time at the gym? Why do you care?
Y'all come off like a bunch of elitist jocks.

If a guy wants to hang with his buddies at the squat rack and grunt like a gorilla, then let him. So they don't ride their bikes to the gym, big deal.
Since the question was asked, "What kind of a society do we live in that people think like this?" I'll answer it: We live in a free society where people are free to do as they damn well please provided it doesn't infringe on the freedoms of others. Woiuld y'll have it that we dictate how others get around and spend their time based solely on how you choose to do so?
Although you may think otherwise, that doesn't make you liberal and progressive. That makes you a fascist - I call it like I see it.

As for assuming that weight lifters are illiterate and are doing nothing simply because their weight lifting is not prep for another sport, such an arrogant attitude says more about you than them. The weight lifters at my gym are good guys and gals, are smart and friendly. How do I know this?
Because I introduced myself to them and got to know them as people and not objects.

Since you haters seem to have never talked to these guys hanging out nude watching tv or however they chooose to spend their time at the gym, it makes you come off like...well, what's that word you call a person when they have judged someone before meeting them?

If the folks at the gym bother you so much, perhaps you should stay home.

Robin Calver

>From: "Keith A. Prior"
>To: "Malcolm, Gary"
>,
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:19:12 -0800
>
>I do spin classes and just flog myself!
>I get my HR pretty jacked pedaling to no where. I usually only get to
>the puke point out at Alpenrose but spin classes come close. If you
>ever want to indulge in a spin class be sure you warm up somehow before
>you start.
>
>Too bad those spin bikes can't show the watts being put out by each bike!
>Then we would really see how deep "Spin Bike Barbie" is digging! ;)
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
>Behalf Of Malcolm, Gary
>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:47 AM
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>
>
>
>Thomas,
>
>This year, for the first time, I purchased a 4 month membership at a
>gym in Eugene just for the spin classes. I promised the wife that I
>would not train at night and to tell you the truth, it's been flipping
>cold lately. So most weekdays I haul my butt out of bed at 4:15 and
>spin for 30 or 40 minutes by myself and then take a 60 minute spin
>class. (I just walk by the muscle fatties as they are grunting - or
>lounging - away... pointless)
>
>I don't know about your classes but the gals at Gold's Gym are ruthless
>monsters. Outside of a race, I have never consistently worked as hard
>as I have when an otherwise pleasant aerobics instructor is screaming
>in my ear that I need to 'dig deeper', or 'I thought you were a bike
>racer?', or 'Is that all you've got?' Admittedly I turn up the tension
>more than the typical spin junkie... Or perhaps I'm just lucky.
>
>And then I end the workout with a 10 minute sauna. Pleasant.
>
>You may judge for yourself the results of a mud and ice free training
>regime on the 18th.
>
>Gary "$pinMonkeeG" Malcolm
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:15 AM
>To: 'Evan MacKenzie'; 'Heather VanValkenburg'; obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>
> >>>He said he has a bike that he occasionally rides to the gym, but
>apparently the thought of doing something other than driving to the gym
>to work out was completely foreign to him. What kind of society do we
>live in that people think like this?<<<
>
>I went to a spin class at Bally's and the instructor chewed me out
>after because I didn't follow his specific instructions as to where to
>put my hands. I was using the bars to stretch my back during a cool
>down section of the work out.
>
>It was funny because a few months earlier I had sold the guy some
>shoes. He had just earned his "SPIN CLASS" teaching certificate. We
>asked him how much he rides his bike, I don't think he had one. Or had
>any interest in cycling.
>
>It is to bad that so many folks have this attitude about spin class vs
>riding outside. If they can do Spin class three days a week, they will
>certainly have no problem riding outside. I bet a few of them will be
>able put some serious hurt on the rest of us at PIR.
>Maybe we should go an a recruiting spree. Help these folks being
>oppressed by Corporate Gymnasium free themselves from the persecution
>of monthly dues, sweat covered weight benches and mildewed locker
>rooms.
>
>YES! FREEDOM! THY NAME IS OBRA!!
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>.oops...gotta go... the squat rack just opened up..
>
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>Thomas Hoffman
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>Behalf Of Evan MacKenzie
>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:57 AM
>To: Heather VanValkenburg; obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>
>Losers.
>
>I've always wanted to do this, but never have.
>You walk up to someone in the gym and ask them "Hey, what what they are
>training for?" I'd bet you 9 out of ten would look at you dumbfounded
>because they don't want to admit that it's just vanity (That, and they
>don't know what dumbfounded or vanity mean). Then you say, "No, I mean,
>what sport do you do that you are lifting weights for? Are you a
>cyclist, do you play football or soccer, you know?"
>
>"Uh, I'm just here to lift weights."
>
>"So you don't actually do anything then?"
>
>"Uh, I guess not."
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>
>My wife and I started going to spin class last fall when the days got
>shorter (boring!). The instructor was complaining because when the
>Hillsboro Aquatic Center (which has a pool, weight room and other
>fitness stuff) was closed DURING THE SUMMER, he didn't have anywhere to
>work out. He said he has a bike that he occasionally rides to the gym,
>but apparently the thought of doing something other than driving to the
>gym to work out was completely foreign to him. What kind of society do
>we live in that people think like this? That is SO WRONG!
>
>OK, that's the end of my Thursday morning rant.
>
>-Evan
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>Behalf Of Heather VanValkenburg
>Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:53 PM
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>
>Enough about number sizes and onto a very serious issue...
>
>WHAT'S WITH ALL THE GUYS (I don't see women doing this) AT THE GYM THAT
>COME
>
>TO JUST HANG OUT? Seriously, they come in, they hang out and talk to
>their buddies, (usually in the way), they LOOK like they might be there
>to workout, since they are wearing the approprite workout attire, but
>they don't lift a single weight. I mean, you don't just accidentally
>drop by the gym to hang out, right? What's up with that?
>
>Does this happen where you work out?
>
>Are you one of THEM?
>
>What should we call THEM?
>
>
>
>-Heather VanValkenburg
>
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