Jeff Tedder & Shari
Hey Curt, the same thing at 24 hour in the pearl....They have an elevator
going up to the second floor with stairs right around the corner and I see
people using the elevator when I am in there....Pretty funny..........
To each his own I guess, I am sure lots of people will come to there
defense,
injuries, handicapped, you don't know there story, etc.... but they are
walking fine all the way to elevator and fully capable of making it up
stairs......Have a great weekend.
Keep your clothes on in the locker room...
Hey Heather, how are those good looking Tedder kids at school doing?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Dewees"
To:
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
> One of the funniest photos I've ever seen shows the front entrance to
> a 24-Hour Fitness gym somewhere. The gym entrance is on the second
> floor of a two-story complex, and there is an escalator leading up
> from the ground floor with flights of stairs on each side of the
> escalator.
>
> The photo showed the escalator full of people wearing gym clothes
> and/or carrying gym bags, going to and from the gym entrance, and
> absolutely NO ONE taking the stairs.
>
> (Apparently, the idea of actually getting any exercise OUTSIDE of the
> gym is foreign to a large number of fitness buffs out there.)
>
>
>
> On 2/2/07, Monty Hill wrote:
>> I agree with this.
>>
>> The only thing that really makes me scratch my head is why exercise for
>> most of us can only be done in a gym? The irony of getting in one's car
>> to drive to the gym (other than weather excuses, which I also find weak)
>> to go to the gym or up to the Fairmont Loop to exercise. We would not
>> have so much obesity if we actually incorporate exercise into our daily,
>> meaningful routine.
>>
>> Spoken as an elitist 'cycling commuter' not an elitist cycling
>> competitor. Frankly most of us compete in vain, we are not being paid
>> or will we ever do it as a career. I would hate to use the H word.
>>
>> If someone is in the way at the gym, I let them know I would like to
>> use the machine. Never been denied yet.
>>
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>> >>> "J. David Coughlin" 2/2/2007 9:53 am >>>
>> As a long time competitor in both cycling and triathlon and also a gym
>> owner
>> I have followed with some interest the ongoing discussion about weight
>> training, gym etiquette, etc. There certainly does seem to be some
>> elitism
>> trickling in from the cycling community. Several of the replies have
>> hit it
>> on the head. There is not only nothing wrong with lifting weights or
>> participating in spin classes, but, in fact it is advantagous for
>> those
>> participants, even if they don't cycle competitively. The news is full
>> of
>> the problems about childhood and adult obesity, and if a spin class or
>> weightlifting benefits the health of the participant, then we, as a
>> part of
>> the population that espouses fitness, should applaud them, not
>> castigate
>> them.
>>
>> As far as gym etiquette goes, if a person, man or woman, is hogging a
>> specific machine or weight set, and if they won't let you work in with
>> them,
>> a quiet word to the gym manager or owner will quickly solve the
>> matter.
>> Gyms cater to the mases, not to the elite weightlifter. And that
>> elite
>> lifter , almost without exception, will be happy to share his/her
>> knowledge
>> and work with you especially if they find out you are a competitive
>> cyclist.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
>>
>> Behalf Of Thomas Hoffman
>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:57 AM
>> To: 'Matt Plummer'; obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>>
>>
>> OK OK I give.
>>
>> I admit I haven't been to the gym in a while, although I've spent
>> time doing
>> all the things we're now pocking fun at. So I guess I have to laugh at
>> myself too.
>>
>> I commend anyone that is focused on personal achievement, for whatever
>> reason, even vanity. So here I am standing and applauding there
>> efforts.
>> <
>>
>> But heck, Lets LAUGH at each other once in while, and remember we are
>> the
>> ones riding around in skimpy black unidies every weekend.
>>
>> The only thing that disturbs me on this thread is the image of a bunch
>> of
>> middle aged naked dudes hanging out in the Mens Lounge.
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Matt Plummer
>> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:55 AM
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>>
>> All of you are amazing. I try so hard to not react to everything you
>> are
>> saying,
>> but I end up so pissed off I have to speak up. Its hard for me to
>> understand
>> that the only way a person can be fit, strong, cool, and even healthy
>> is to
>> ride a bike. Heaven forbid people having other enjoyment and
>> aspirations
>> beyond
>> cycling. So what if a person only works out to have larger muscles or
>> to
>> look
>> better. Maybe ask yourselves why you do many things you do. I'm willing
>> to
>> bet
>> a lot of your answers are going to be pretty funky.
>>
>> As for the grunting, its related to something called the Valsalva
>> Maneuver.
>> This
>> involves trying to exhale to a closed throat, which builds pressure in
>> the
>> abdomen. When this pressure is released it generates a grunting type
>> sound.
>> This is only beneficial in certain types of exercises. I can't speak
>> for all
>> of
>> the grunters, but most seem to be doing this correctly.
>>
>> And the standing around. The American College of Sports Medicine
>> recommends
>> 2-5
>> minutes of rest between sets for strength training. This is not
>> muscular
>> endurance or lifting for hypertrophy, this is for pure strength. So
>> resting
>> up to 5 minutes between sets makes for a lot of standing around.
>>
>> Also, I'm pretty sure that spin class and riding bikes are two
>> different
>> things.
>> I've yet to go to a spin class that is designed for cyclists, they are
>> designed
>> to give people power and endurance workouts. I've been criticized in
>> the
>> past
>> for doing things too much like a cyclist and not getting the full
>> benefit of
>> what the instructor is trying to pass on. So there are certainly
>> benefits to
>> changing your style a bit.
>>
>> What I'm trying to put across with this message is that people go to
>> the gym
>> and
>> do things for different reasons, a lot of reasons that we don't
>> understand.
>> Isn't that the best part of all of this. So many types of people with
>> so
>> many
>> different goals coming to one place to share the activities of the
>> gym.
>> Maybe
>> thats why there's so much socializing. It seems like some folks on the
>> list
>> might be a little too critical of what others are doing. Maybe its time
>> to
>> be a
>> little more critical of ourselves.
>>
>> Matt Plummer
>>
>>
>> Quoting "Keith A. Prior" :
>>
>> > I do spin classes and just flog myself!
>> > I get my HR pretty jacked pedaling to no where. I usually only get to
>> the
>> > puke
>> > point out at Alpenrose but spin classes come close. If you ever want
>> to
>> > indulge
>> > in a spin class be sure you warm up somehow before you start.
>> >
>> > Too bad those spin bikes can't show the watts being put out by each
>> bike!
>> > Then we would really see how deep "Spin Bike Barbie" is digging! ;)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]On
>> > Behalf Of Malcolm, Gary
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:47 AM
>> > To: obra@list.obra.org
>> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thomas,
>> >
>> > This year, for the first time, I purchased a 4 month membership at a
>> gym
>> in
>> > Eugene just for the spin classes. I promised the wife that I would
>> not
>> train
>> > at night and to tell you the truth, it's been flipping cold lately.
>> So
>> most
>> > weekdays I haul my butt out of bed at 4:15 and spin for 30 or 40
>> minutes
>> by
>> > myself and then take a 60 minute spin class. (I just walk by the
>> muscle
>> > fatties as they are grunting - or lounging - away... pointless)
>> >
>> > I don't know about your classes but the gals at Gold's Gym are
>> ruthless
>> > monsters. Outside of a race, I have never consistently worked as hard
>> as I
>> > have when an otherwise pleasant aerobics instructor is screaming in
>> my ear
>> > that I need to 'dig deeper', or 'I thought you were a bike racer?',
>> or 'Is
>> > that all you've got?' Admittedly I turn up the tension more than the
>> typical
>> > spin junkie... Or perhaps I'm just lucky.
>> >
>> > And then I end the workout with a 10 minute sauna. Pleasant.
>> >
>> > You may judge for yourself the results of a mud and ice free
>> training
>> regime
>> > on the 18th.
>> >
>> > Gary "$pinMonkeeG" Malcolm
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Thomas Hoffman [mailto:t.hoffman10@verizon.net]
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:15 AM
>> > To: 'Evan MacKenzie'; 'Heather VanValkenburg'; obra@list.obra.org
>> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>> >
>> > >>>He said he has a bike that he occasionally rides to the gym, but
>> > apparently the thought of doing something other than driving to the
>> gym to
>> > work out was completely foreign to him. What kind of society do we
>> live in
>> > that people think like this?<<<
>> >
>> > I went to a spin class at Bally's and the instructor chewed me out
>> after
>> > because I didn't follow his specific instructions as to where to put
>> my
>> > hands. I was using the bars to stretch my back during a cool down
>> section
>> > of the work out.
>> >
>> > It was funny because a few months earlier I had sold the guy some
>> shoes.
>> He
>> > had just earned his "SPIN CLASS" teaching certificate. We asked him
>> how
>> > much he rides his bike, I don't think he had one. Or had any interest
>> in
>> > cycling.
>> >
>> > It is to bad that so many folks have this attitude about spin class
>> vs
>> > riding outside. If they can do Spin class three days a week, they
>> will
>> > certainly have no problem riding outside. I bet a few of them will be
>> able
>> > put some serious hurt on the rest of us at PIR.
>> > Maybe we should go an a recruiting spree. Help these folks being
>> oppressed
>> > by Corporate Gymnasium free themselves from the persecution of
>> monthly
>> dues,
>> > sweat covered weight benches and mildewed locker rooms.
>> >
>> > YES! FREEDOM! THY NAME IS OBRA!!
>> >
>> >
>> > .oops...gotta go... the squat rack just opened up..
>> >
>> >
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>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> On
>> > Behalf Of Evan MacKenzie
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:57 AM
>> > To: Heather VanValkenburg; obra@list.obra.org
>> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>> >
>> > Losers.
>> >
>> > I've always wanted to do this, but never have.
>> > You walk up to someone in the gym and ask them "Hey, what what they
>> are
>> > training for?" I'd bet you 9 out of ten would look at you
>> dumbfounded
>> > because they don't want to admit that it's just vanity (That, and
>> they
>> don't
>> > know what dumbfounded or vanity mean). Then you say, "No, I mean,
>> what
>> sport
>> > do you do that you are lifting weights for? Are you a cyclist, do you
>> play
>> > football or soccer, you know?"
>> >
>> > "Uh, I'm just here to lift weights."
>> >
>> > "So you don't actually do anything then?"
>> >
>> > "Uh, I guess not."
>> >
>> >
>> > My wife and I started going to spin class last fall when the days
>> got
>> > shorter (boring!). The instructor was complaining because when the
>> Hillsboro
>> > Aquatic Center (which has a pool, weight room and other fitness
>> stuff) was
>> > closed DURING THE SUMMER, he didn't have anywhere to work out. He
>> said he
>> > has a bike that he occasionally rides to the gym, but apparently the
>> thought
>> > of doing something other than driving to the gym to work out was
>> completely
>> > foreign to him. What kind of society do we live in that people think
>> like
>> > this? That is SO WRONG!
>> >
>> > OK, that's the end of my Thursday morning rant.
>> >
>> > -Evan
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------- __o
>> > ---------- _ '\<,_
>> > ----------(_)/ (_)______Get on your bikes and ride!
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> On
>> > Behalf Of Heather VanValkenburg
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:53 PM
>> > To: obra@list.obra.org
>> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] OT- Social Hour at the Squat Rack
>> >
>> > Enough about number sizes and onto a very serious issue...
>> >
>> > WHAT'S WITH ALL THE GUYS (I don't see women doing this) AT THE GYM
>> THAT
>> COME
>> >
>> > TO JUST HANG OUT? Seriously, they come in, they hang out and talk to
>> their
>> > buddies, (usually in the way), they LOOK like they might be there to
>> > workout, since they are wearing the approprite workout attire, but
>> they
>> > don't lift a single weight. I mean, you don't just accidentally drop
>> by
>> the
>> > gym to hang out, right? What's up with that?
>> >
>> > Does this happen where you work out?
>> >
>> > Are you one of THEM?
>> >
>> > What should we call THEM?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Heather VanValkenburg
>> >
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