Luciano bailey
i think Dan hit it on the head mashing comes natural cadence on the other
hand is a discipline learned over time. Surely Lance put all rumors to rest
that spin can't win, with his command of the cadence sciences. The
restriction has really developed juniors on the track were they are forced
to pace riders which much bgger gear. So spin young legs spin!!
>From: "Dan H"
>To: "Dave Palmer" ,
>,
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Junior gearing
>Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:57:06 -0800
>
>"My kid would have won that race if he would have had a bigger gear"
>I'm reminded of the time I competed as a cat. III in an omnium called Pear
>Blossom or something like that. I was 19 and for some reason cat. IIIs and
>juniors were combined in the somewhat hilly road race. There were three
>juniors I couldn't shake in the hills (I think one was Darrel Batke) and
>the
>four of us finished together. When I saw the finish I instinctively shifted
>into the biggest gear I had (52X13) and commenced mashing figuring I could
>out power the kids. After I crossed the line in the 4th place Darrel said
>it looked like I was over geared and that the junior gear restriction
>helped
>him and the other kids keep their cadence up. That was just one of many
>lessons learned.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dave Palmer"
>To: ;
>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Junior gearing
>
>
>Mike and David,
>
>The gear limits themselves aren't a new rule, they've been around for many
>years. It's been a subject for debate for just as long, with good arguments
>on both sides.
>What is new, is that a junior must now adhere to the limits in any
>race, not just in a junior race. If the limits are actually in effect to
>reduce injury, and promote a good pedaling technique, then it was "plan
>dumb" (sorry Mike), to allow the Juniors to race without the limits when
>competing in Senior events. The new rule is in fact less hypocritical than
>the policy of no limit when racing in a Senior event. As far as road
>equipment goes, Shimano and Campy still make 52 tooth rings and junior
>cassettes starting with a 14 tooth cog, so meeting the 7.93 meter
>requirement isn't difficult at all. If anyone says "My kid would have won
>that race if he would have had a bigger gear", then maybe they're the ones
>pushing a little too hard. I don't like USAC,
>and I'm sure glad we're not part of it, but I did attach an excerpt of a
>letter from their CEO Steve Johnson to a concerned parent in New England
>regarding the new rule.
>
>Good night,
>
>Dave Palmer
>
>The concept of "Jr. gears" was not developed in the US, but is a rule of
>the
>International Cycling Union (UCI). While "experts" may argue the logic of
>the rule, you cannot argue the equalizing effect that it has on riders at
>different stages of development. Because cycling is an international sport
>and we must compete on the same playing field as any other country, we have
>been moving steadily in the direction of harmonizing our rules with those
>of
>the UCI. Having been involved in this process, I can tell you we heard
>similar concerns about "damaging the sport" when we implemented the gear
>restrictions for juniors in the first place. However, since that time, the
>number of licensed Jrs. has more than doubled.
>
>I can assure you that USA Cycling takes these kinds of decisions very
>seriously and solicits input from multiple sources prior to moving forward.
>Toward that end, this topic was a point of discussion at the "Town Hall"
>meeting at this year?s Junior National Road Championships; and the general
>consensus of the coaches and parents present at the meeting was that
>restricting gearing in all races for Jrs. was a good idea.
>
>You may also be surprised to know that, in addition to limiting Jr.
>gearing,
>many countries will not allow Jrs. to ride with elite (19 and over)
>athletes
>and limit the number of events that Jrs. are allowed to ride each year. We
>have not moved to prevent Jrs. from riding with elites because of the
>limited number of Jr-only events on the domestic calendar. At this point,
>we would prefer to allow Jrs. to ride with older riders so they may gain
>valuable racing experience, while still respecting the gear restrictions
>recommended by the International Cycling Union. I hope you agree this is
>an
>acceptable compromise.
>
>All the best,
>
>Steve Johnson
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Murray"
>To:
>Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Juniors-If you race out of state read this
>
>
> > USAC has had this rule come and go in various versions over many years
> > now,
> > including rules that mandated gears that could not really even be done
> > with
> > modern gear systems without use of a machine shop. I could almost see
> > applicability for track or other fixed gear racing but for road racing
>the
> > idea is just plan dumb. To my knowledge no one has brought this idea
> > before
> > OBRA and I hope it stays that way.
> >
> > Mike Murray
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> > Behalf Of David Auker
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 23:21 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Juniors-If you race out of state read this
> >
> >
> > Ah, sorry, I was wrong when I said:
> >> Anyway, shouldn't the following say:
> >>
> >> "If the crank arms complete more than a full revolution in this
> >> distance, the bike fails." ??
> >>
> >> instead of:
> >>
> >>> The bike is rolled backwards straight towards the other mark until
> >>> the crank arms have completed a full revolution. If the crank arms do
> >>> not
> > complete a full revolution in this distance, the bike fails.
> >>>
> > :-[
> >
> > I think it's good (and interesting) OBRA doesn't have the gear
> > restrictions. Has there ever been a push for this? Has USA Cycling had
> > this all along? I remember it a long time ago, but this seems to be
> > worded as a "new" rule.?
> >
> > David
> >
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