jakebigham
I don't know...
I have seen some others.
And I would be willing to argue they were dumber.
{Sorry- am effort at humor ; } -jake
On Mar 13, 2007, at 10:59 PM, Craig Austin wrote:
> This is no $hit, hands down, the dumbest argument I've ever seen on
> this
> email list.
>
> Craig Austin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-
> bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of KO Kevin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:56 PM
> To: Rick Johnson; kevin@verboort.org
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] velodrome
>
> At the risk of beating this to death, there are 6 Metropolitan
> Statistical Areas in Oregon, as determined by the US Department of
> Urban
> Development (In alpha order): Bend MSA, Corvallis MSA,
> Eugene-Springfield MSA, Medford MSA, Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton MSA,
> Salem MSA. Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton is the most populous (by far)
> and Eugene-Springfield is the second most populous MSA in Oregon.
>
> Kevin
>
> ________________________
>
> 2000 population top ten ranking, by county:
>
>
> 1. Multnomah 662,400
> 2. Washington 449,250
> 3. Clackamas 340,000
> 4. Lane 323,950
> 5. Marion 286,300
> 6. Jackson 182,200
> 7. Deschutes 116,600
> 8. Linn 103,350
> 9. Douglas 100,500
> 10. Yamhill 85,500
>
>
> 2040 estimated population top ten ranking, by county:
>
>
> 1. Washington 920,852
> 2. Multnomah 842,009
> 3. Clackamas 620,703
> 4. Lane 471,511
> 5. Marion 448,671
> 6. Jackson 297,496
> 7. Deschutes 257,088
> 8. Yamhill 166,776
> 9. Linn 146,260
> 10. Douglas 140,619
>
> Source: Oregon Office of Economic Analysis
> demographic.shtml#Long_term_Coun
> ty_Forecast>
>
> KO Kevin wrote:
>
> Eugene/Springfield is the second largest metropolitan area in
> Oregon. Yes, it's larger than Salem/Keizer. And because the only
> thing
> that separates the two cities is the width of I-5, it makes a hell
> of a
> lot more sense to say Eugene/Springfield than Seattle/Tacoma or
> Portland/Salem. We are, indeed, joined at the hip. Yes, there has
> been
> talk at the grassroots level about building a velodrome in our area.
> And you are correct that it really comes down to a matter of
> dollars and
> cents.
>
>
>
> I don't doubt that the population of our area can support a
> velodrome. I do have concerns whether we can generate the public
> funding support for such an undertaking. A private/public partnership
> is more likely to yield results. A reasonable scenario is if the
> public
> sector put up the land and provide management/maintenance services
> through a parks district, and funding for design and construction be
> raised through private donors.
>
>
>
> I would love to see something like this gain momentum in
> Eugene/Springfield. And yes, I would donate my time to help it
> happen.
>
>
>
> Kevin Ko
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Van Dyke
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:25 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] velodrome
>
>
>
> No offense intended, but Eugene is not the second largest city,
> Salem is. Eugene is the third largest in Oregon. Saying
> Eugene-Springfield is almost as irritating as saying Seattle-Tacoma.
> You might as well say Portland-Salem. Sorry, I digress.
>
>
>
> Eugene is centrally located? Tell that to Bend (or Prineville!)
> If by centrally located you mean the center of population, it's not
> that
> either. There is a comparitively large population in the Portland
> metro
> area that skews your claim.
>
>
>
> Regardless of size of a city, or geographic location, it boils
> down to dollars and cents. There must be a large enough population
> close enough to your proposed venue that are willing to foot the bill,
> either through tax support, or admissions and sponsorships, or
> combination of all three.
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever talked about building a velodrome in Eugene?
> Probably.
>
> Talk however is cheap........... facilities are built with
> dollars.
>
>
>
> Like I said, no offense intended whatsoever. I just want to
> help clarify some reasons why it hasn't happened.
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
> >
> >Doug Turnbull wrote:
> > After reading all these excited emails about building
> two new
> >velodromes in Portland and southern Oregon, I am
> curious as to why
> >Eugene is not one of the proposed sites.
> Eugene/Springfield is the
> >second largest city in the state, we have a large
> cycling community,
> >and we are centrally located geographically. I
> certainly think the
> >proposal to build more velodromes is fantastic, but I
> am just
> >wondering (with a bit of jealousy) why Portland and
> southern Oregon
> >were picked instead of my town. Has there ever been
> talk of building
> >one here?
> >
> >-Doug
> >
>
>
>
>
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