Chris Alling
I don't know I think that men argueing about who's is bigger is a very
relevant conversation.
>From: smclaughry
>To: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] velodrome
>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:15:08 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Perhaps it's time to re-direct the conversation to a topic more relevant to
>the subject line.
>
>Have you contacted your State Senator in support of Senate Bill 926 yet?
>
>http://www.leg.state.or.us/writelegsltr/
>
>If so, how about contacting the Governor's Office?
>
>Have you visited www.portlandvelodrome.org and pledged your support?
>
>Alternatively, if you feel that your time would be better spent arguing
>about which town deserves the title of "Oregon's Second Largest City", feel
>free.
>
>-stephen
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Craig Austin
>To: KO Kevin ; Rick Johnson
>; kevin@verboort.org
>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:59:22 PM
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] velodrome
>
>This is no $hit, hands down, the dumbest argument I've ever seen on this
>email list.
>
>Craig Austin
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
>Behalf Of KO Kevin
>Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:56 PM
>To: Rick Johnson; kevin@verboort.org
>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] velodrome
>
>At the risk of beating this to death, there are 6 Metropolitan
>Statistical Areas in Oregon, as determined by the US Department of Urban
>Development (In alpha order): Bend MSA, Corvallis MSA,
>Eugene-Springfield MSA, Medford MSA, Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton MSA,
>Salem MSA. Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton is the most populous (by far)
>and Eugene-Springfield is the second most populous MSA in Oregon.
>
>Kevin
>
>________________________
>
>2000 population top ten ranking, by county:
>
>
>1. Multnomah 662,400
>2. Washington 449,250
>3. Clackamas 340,000
>4. Lane 323,950
>5. Marion 286,300
>6. Jackson 182,200
>7. Deschutes 116,600
>8. Linn 103,350
>9. Douglas 100,500
>10. Yamhill 85,500
>
>
>2040 estimated population top ten ranking, by county:
>
>
>1. Washington 920,852
>2. Multnomah 842,009
>3. Clackamas 620,703
>4. Lane 471,511
>5. Marion 448,671
>6. Jackson 297,496
>7. Deschutes 257,088
>8. Yamhill 166,776
>9. Linn 146,260
>10. Douglas 140,619
>
>Source: Oregon Office of Economic Analysis
>ty_Forecast>
>
>KO Kevin wrote:
>
> Eugene/Springfield is the second largest metropolitan area in
>Oregon. Yes, it's larger than Salem/Keizer. And because the only thing
>that separates the two cities is the width of I-5, it makes a hell of a
>lot more sense to say Eugene/Springfield than Seattle/Tacoma or
>Portland/Salem. We are, indeed, joined at the hip. Yes, there has been
>talk at the grassroots level about building a velodrome in our area.
>And you are correct that it really comes down to a matter of dollars and
>cents.
>
>
>
> I don't doubt that the population of our area can support a
>velodrome. I do have concerns whether we can generate the public
>funding support for such an undertaking. A private/public partnership
>is more likely to yield results. A reasonable scenario is if the public
>sector put up the land and provide management/maintenance services
>through a parks district, and funding for design and construction be
>raised through private donors.
>
>
>
> I would love to see something like this gain momentum in
>Eugene/Springfield. And yes, I would donate my time to help it happen.
>
>
>
> Kevin Ko
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>[mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Van Dyke
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:25 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] velodrome
>
>
>
> No offense intended, but Eugene is not the second largest city,
>Salem is. Eugene is the third largest in Oregon. Saying
>Eugene-Springfield is almost as irritating as saying Seattle-Tacoma.
>You might as well say Portland-Salem. Sorry, I digress.
>
>
>
> Eugene is centrally located? Tell that to Bend (or Prineville!)
>If by centrally located you mean the center of population, it's not that
>either. There is a comparitively large population in the Portland metro
>area that skews your claim.
>
>
>
> Regardless of size of a city, or geographic location, it boils
>down to dollars and cents. There must be a large enough population
>close enough to your proposed venue that are willing to foot the bill,
>either through tax support, or admissions and sponsorships, or
>combination of all three.
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever talked about building a velodrome in Eugene?
>Probably.
>
> Talk however is cheap........... facilities are built with
>dollars.
>
>
>
> Like I said, no offense intended whatsoever. I just want to
>help clarify some reasons why it hasn't happened.
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
> >
> >Doug Turnbull wrote:
> > After reading all these excited emails about building
>two new
> >velodromes in Portland and southern Oregon, I am
>curious as to why
> >Eugene is not one of the proposed sites.
>Eugene/Springfield is the
> >second largest city in the state, we have a large
>cycling community,
> >and we are centrally located geographically. I
>certainly think the
> >proposal to build more velodromes is fantastic, but I
>am just
> >wondering (with a bit of jealousy) why Portland and
>southern Oregon
> >were picked instead of my town. Has there ever been
>talk of building
> >one here?
> >
> >-Doug
> >
>
>
>
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