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Hey Jess!!
Better hide!
I think Sheriff Roscoe is coming your way!!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jess Mace
>Sent: Jul 6, 2007 3:28 PM
>To: cycleone23@hotmail.com, obra@list.obra.org, montyh@tvapdx.com
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Hefty fines levied against cyclists in Washington County
>
>I wrote Scott Whitehead, Chief of Police in North Plains, with my
>concerns (kindly stated) about the subject while thanking him for his
>service the community at large...
>
>this is his reply:
>
>Mr. Mace,
>
>Thanks for writing. As usual your email is consistent with all the
>others I
>receive. Maybe next time you could put some thought into it and make a
>valid
>point instead of all the blah blah blah crap.
>
>Scott Whitehead
>Chief of Police
>North Plains Police Department
>Office: (503) 647.2604
>Fax: (503) 647.2031
>
>
>
>I think the mentality speaks for itself...
>
>
>
>
>
>Jess C. Mace
>Clinical Outcomes Research Coordinator
>for Timothy Smith, MD, MPH
>Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery
>Oregon Health & Science University
>503.494.5886
>
>>>> "J.Michael Manning" 7/6/2007 3:21 PM >>>
>One of the most important facts of the road is... not that we have
>almost equal access by law. It is the fact that we have to deal with the
>perception of cyclists by uninformed motorists, even if it is flawed.
>Defensive cycling is a must. I am personally a bit aggressive on the
>road, establishing my presence in a way that does not break the law, but
>probably pisses a few drivers off, because I may make them slow down and
>go around me. I spent 10 years commuting in heavy traffic for 1.5 hours
>a day in an area that had never heard of bike racing. In those cases you
>learn how to defend yourself. Admittedly, there is no fail safe method,
>as I was struck by a hit and run driver 6 years ago and feel fortunate
>to have lived through the ordeal. In that case, I was riding with 2
>others in a single pace line in the rain as the sun was setting and
>visibility was questionable. So I was trying to stay close to the
>shoulder. Possibly a mistake, but who can say. Anyway...I ramble. To
>illustrate my point, 3 of my friends were cycling this weekend and were
>nearly wiped out by an elderly woman who decided to pass them in a
>residential area. As she accelerated by them, she blew a stop sign on
>Bethany Blvd and was broadsided by a pickup. When she emerged from her
>vehicle she tried to blame the cyclists for causing the accident. Her
>perception caused her to break the law because she was not focused on
>driving safely, but rather on getting by these annoying cyclists. That's
>the reality I am talking about.Mike Manning> From: montyh@tvapdx.com>
>To: obra@list.obra.org> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:10:35 -0700> Subject:
>Re: [OBRA Chat] Hefty fines levied against cyclists
>in Washington County> > "You're a friggin' cyclist
>man, it must be your fault."> > -----Original Message-----> From:
>obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf
>Of Steve Brown> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:52 AM> To: Greg Crane> Cc:
>obra@list.obra.org> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Hefty fines levied against
>cyclists in Washington County> > Suggest the ride be moved to West Linn
>were traffic laws are not> enforced. I was struck by a car last week
>making a right turn while> I was in a bike lane. Police and Fire
>responded to witness calls,> crash report written, no citation issued.>
>> Steve Brown> On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Greg Crane wrote:> > > Boy do
>I feel safer now that the cops are cracking> > down on cyclist. I was
>almost killed just the other> > day in my Xtera by a cyclist not
>following the rules> > of the road.> >> > Lucky for me I was doing 15
>over the speed limit and> > was able to get out of the very dangerous
>situation I> > was placed in by a thoughtless person on a bicycle.> >> >
>Greg> > --- Mike Manning wrote:> >> >> Just
>thought I should forward this message on to the> >> rest of you.> >>
>Mike Manning> >>> >> Fellow Cyclists- FYI, on a note I received from a>
>>> Tri-athlete who rolls in our neighborhood!> >>> >> Part of a group I
>was riding with yesterday was> >> ticketed $335 apiece for rolling
>though the stop> >> signs at the intersection of North Plains Rd and> >>
>Glencoe. The officer indicated that the north plains> >> PD has stepped
>up ticketing cyclists in the area> >> since the rider was killed a few
>weeks ago. Beware.> >>> >> Lindsay Kandra> >> Portland TriClub> >>
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