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Hmmm, I does sound like you guys caused her to crash. I hope you offered to pay her bills. After all, you goaded her into reckless driving by being there.

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George Schreck
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From: J.Michael Manning

One of the most important facts of the road is... not that we have almost equal access by law. It is the fact that we have to deal with the perception of cyclists by uninformed motorists, even if it is flawed. Defensive cycling is a must. I am personally a bit aggressive on the road, establishing my presence in a way that does not break the law, but probably pisses a few drivers off, because I may make them slow down and go around me. I spent 10 years commuting in heavy traffic for 1.5 hours a day in an area that had never heard of bike racing. In those cases you learn how to defend yourself. Admittedly, there is no fail safe method, as I was struck by a hit and run driver 6 years ago and feel fortunate to have lived through the ordeal. In that case, I was riding with 2 others in a single pace line in the rain as the sun was setting and visibility was questionable. So I was trying to stay close to the shoulder. Possibly a mistake, but who can say. Anyway...I ramble. To illust
rate m
y point, 3 of my friends were cycling this weekend and were nearly wiped out by an elderly woman who decided to pass them in a residential area. As she accelerated by them, she blew a stop sign on Bethany Blvd and was broadsided by a pickup. When she emerged from her vehicle she tried to blame the cyclists for causing the accident. Her perception caused her to break the law because she was not focused on driving safely, but rather on getting by these annoying cyclists. That's the reality I am talking about.
Mike Manning

> From: montyh@tvapdx.com
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 08:10:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Hefty fines levied against cyclists in Washington County
>
> "You're a friggin' cyclist man, it must be your fault."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Steve Brown
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:52 AM
> To: Greg Crane
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Hefty fines levied against cyclists in Washington County
>
> Suggest the ride be moved to West Linn were traffic laws are not
> enforced. I was struck by a car last week making a right turn while
> I was in a bike lane. Police and Fire responded to witness calls,
> crash report written, no citation issued.
>
> Steve Brown
> On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:50 PM, Greg Crane wrote:
>
> > Boy do I feel safer now that the cops are cracking
> > down on cyclist. I was almost killed just the other
> > day in my Xtera by a cyclist not following the rules
> > of the road.
> >
> > Lucky for me I was doing 15 over the speed limit and
> > was able to get out of the very dangerous situation I
> > was placed in by a thoughtless person on a bicycle.
> >
> > Greg
> > --- Mike Manning wrote:
> >
> >> Just thought I should forward this message on to the
> >> rest of you.
> >> Mike Manning
> >>
> >> Fellow Cyclists- FYI, on a note I received from a
> >> Tri-athlete who rolls in our neighborhood!
> >>
> >> Part of a group I was riding with yesterday was
> >> ticketed $335 apiece for rolling though the stop
> >> signs at the intersection of North Plains Rd and
> >> Glencoe. The officer indicated that the north plains
> >> PD has stepped up ticketing cyclists in the area
> >> since the rider was killed a few weeks ago. Beware.
> >>
> >> Lindsay Kandra
> >> Portland TriClub
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