jboquiren@comcast.net
You missed NASCAR. Apparently mechanics have found a way to dope cars :)
Cheating will occur as long as someone sees that the benefits outweigh the costs in their skewed little minds.
Remove cash from the equation and a lot of the cheating will probably go away. Probably.
Joseph 'Will race for food' Boquiren
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From: "Malcolm, Gary"
The least credible event in sports is Mr. No-Neck beating Hank Aarons home run tally, closely followed by any WWF match, followed by the Super Bowl of 450lbs meat packages, followed by Thoroughbred Horse Racing. You get my point.
Apparently, if you want to win a pro-cycling event you have to risk strokes, liver failure and blood poisoning in addition to 60 mph down hills. Sadly, these people need to be protected from themselves.
It?s time for the Guillotine. I agree with Phil Liggett that anyone proved to have doped should be banned forever and all their wins expunged back to junior racing, starting today. Then the same for every paid member of their support staff.
You can tell I?m moving quickly through the shock and amazement phase straight to being pissed, and I can only imagine what the VS. network, SAAB and Subaru must be thinking
Gary Malcolm
From: Mark Jenkins [mailto:mark.sopelana@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:56 AM
To: Erik Voldengen
Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
It's pretty clear that the amount of self-righteousness and hand wringing among the Tour organizers at ASO is inversely proportional to the credibility of the race.
Does it seem to anyone else that ASO in recent months has backed off of Armstrong? Could it be that in the wake of the Riis confession that they were faced with the possibility that if Armstrong cheated -- as they believed -- they would have no clean winners back to 1996? Riis, Ullrich, Pantani, Armstrong, Landis. All of a sudden they very badly need Lance Armstrong to be clean.
If they had been successful in bringing Armstrong down, that would have made the Tour officially the least credible race on anyone's calendar, and possibly the least credible major event in sports . So instead, they're all over taking Riis's yellow jersey (pathetic) and squabbling with UCI (absurd).
How can it be otherwise? The sport has a problem, and this is the highest stakes race in that problem sport for everyone involved -- sponsors, riders, teams. And on top of everything else, the race itself is brutal. Now you have UCI and ASO saying publicly they hope Rasmussen doesn't win. What a disaster.
On 7/24/07, Erik Voldengen wrote:
On 7/24/07, Malcolm, Gary wrote:
Then four sketchy Rasmussen training disappearances make the press, My beloved Vino mixes up blood bags (don't they label those things?), and now I'm thinking, "Why is Contador SOOOO much better than anyone else?"
I think it was only two missed checks, and UCI and Dutch Federation were using the same database? Four warnings, but only two offenses. It takes three to get suspended. Not that I think he's squeaky clean or anything, I'm just sayin...
Regarding Contador, how quickly we forget who he was riding for last year (hint - Spanish guy caught with a briefcase full of money and some frozen bags of blood). Not that I think he's dirty or anything, I'm just saying...
-Erik
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