Karleta Reierson

Oh, Mr. Liggitt is talking out his you know what? They use EPO for cancer
patients. It can't be all bad..... I agree to disagree with what you have
to say. I think if they won they should be able to keep their title.
Karleta

>From: "Malcolm, Gary"
>To: Mark Jenkins , Erik Voldengen
>
>CC: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:03:29 -0700
>
>The least credible event in sports is Mr. No-Neck beating Hank Aarons home
>run tally, closely followed by any WWF match, followed by the Super Bowl of
>450lbs meat packages, followed by Thoroughbred Horse Racing. You get my
>point.
>
>
>
>Apparently, if you want to win a pro-cycling event you have to risk
>strokes,
>liver failure and blood poisoning in addition to 60 mph down hills. Sadly,
>these people need to be protected from themselves.
>
>
>
>It's time for the Guillotine. I agree with Phil Liggett that anyone proved
>to have doped should be banned forever and all their wins expunged back to
>junior racing, starting today. Then the same for every paid member of their
>support staff.
>
>
>
>You can tell I'm moving quickly through the shock and amazement phase
>straight to being pissed, and I can only imagine what the VS. network, SAAB
>and Subaru must be thinking
>
>
>
>
>
>Gary Malcolm
>
>
>
> _____
>
>From: Mark Jenkins [mailto:mark.sopelana@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:56 AM
>To: Erik Voldengen
>Cc: obra@list.obra.org
>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
>
>
>
>It's pretty clear that the amount of self-righteousness and hand wringing
>among the Tour organizers at ASO is inversely proportional to the
>credibility of the race.
>
>Does it seem to anyone else that ASO in recent months has backed off of
>Armstrong? Could it be that in the wake of the Riis confession that they
>were faced with the possibility that if Armstrong cheated -- as they
>believed -- they would have no clean winners back to 1996? Riis, Ullrich,
>Pantani, Armstrong, Landis. All of a sudden they very badly need Lance
>Armstrong to be clean.
>
>If they had been successful in bringing Armstrong down, that would have
>made
>the Tour officially the least credible race on anyone's calendar, and
>possibly the least credible major event in sports . So instead, they're all
>over taking Riis's yellow jersey (pathetic) and squabbling with UCI
>(absurd).
>
>How can it be otherwise? The sport has a problem, and this is the highest
>stakes race in that problem sport for everyone involved -- sponsors,
>riders,
>teams. And on top of everything else, the race itself is brutal. Now you
>have UCI and ASO saying publicly they hope Rasmussen doesn't win. What a
>disaster.
>
>On 7/24/07, Erik Voldengen >
>wrote:
>
>On 7/24/07, Malcolm, Gary > wrote:
>
>Then four sketchy Rasmussen training disappearances make the press, My
>beloved Vino mixes up blood bags (don't they label those things?), and now
>I'm thinking, "Why is Contador SOOOO much better than anyone else?"
>
>
>
>I think it was only two missed checks, and UCI and Dutch Federation were
>using the same database? Four warnings, but only two offenses. It takes
>three to get suspended. Not that I think he's squeaky clean or anything,
>I'm just sayin...
>
>Regarding Contador, how quickly we forget who he was riding for last year
>(hint - Spanish guy caught with a briefcase full of money and some frozen
>bags of blood). Not that I think he's dirty or anything, I'm just
>saying...
>
>
>-Erik
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