Michael O'Hair
MessageI may as well add my two cents...
When EPO started getting attention, the governing body declared a simple metric: hemocrit above 50% = doping and you're out. Then a change took place where tests were done to find traces of a banned sunstance. Essentially, it moved from a health issue to a legal issue. It also allowed a lot of people, including riders, sponsors, and the governing body to claim that the problem was under control.
The real problem is that some people will do anything to get an edge. Portland's own Ken Patera made himself very unpopular by openly stating that if had access to better drugs, he could have won the Olympic gold medal in weightlifting. I met a kid years ago in a local gym who was trying to score Human Growth Hormone or some such because he wanted "arms like Arnold." The fact that what he was trying to get was known to be exceptionally dangerous didn't matter.
Perhaps, some rider on the Tour will refuse to take drugs, get fired ( probably for not being a "team player" ), and then sue everyone in sight. Maybe.
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From: gschreckchat@comcast.net
To: judson@math.harvard.edu, obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] vino = cheater
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:42:48 +0000
I think Atana's and Vino's silence speaks volumes. The result apparently
came from the test after the TT. In this case, there is not much reason to
wait. These guys are going to kill professional cycling.
Of course, I suspect that if other sports had rigorous testing, these would
be a lot of sports in trouble. I notice no one ever followed up on the
soccer palyers that supposedly were working with Fuentes. In baseball, guys
who tested positive are still playing and apparently in football, you can
still pay in the playoffs, make the alll star team and be eligible for
defensive player of the year after you serve your massive six-game
suspension for steriods. Attendance in all those sports still sets records
which only goes to show that the fans do not really care, nor do the money
interests. For some reason cycling always seems to be in everyone's
headlights both on the road and the press. It is not an excuse for cyclists
taking drugs, just a question why the rules are not enforced a stringently
for other sports. I suppose there is more moeny involved in other sports
which drives everything..
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George Schreck
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> Let's wait for the B sample to come back before we
> judge Vino as a cheater. Let the process run its
> course. There have been false positives in the past.
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