Long, Steve

But even 1% to 2% in a race is not minor. It's huge!

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Erik Long
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:46 PM
To: mike.murray@obra.org; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Vino's reality:

I don't know about that, Mike. Thanks to the popularization of wattage
meters, we now know that the average euro-pro puts out 15% higher
wattage than the average North Amercan Pro.

I've known quite a few American professionals who have bounced between
here and there. One recounted to me an occasion when he had super form,
won a couple NRC events, then went over to europe and was dropped every
day, even with race-winning fitness. The 10% gain that the dope can
give you is a huge difference. 10% is the time cut in some of these
races. If it was a minor difference, there wouldn't be so many athletes
on the 'Puerto list.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mike Murray"
Reply-To: mike.murray@obra.org
To:
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Vino's reality:
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:40:51 -0700

Erik Long wrote:
"If he'd been "racing clean" all these years, riding in the environment
of the doped-up super-peloton, he'd have been a mediocre domestique, at
best."

This statement considerably over estimates the benefits provided by
doping practices. Doped or not doped a good rider will be a good rider
and a mediocre rider will be a mediocre rider. The doped rider MAY be a
bit faster than he would have been not doped but the difference is not
the same as the difference between good and mediocre.

Mike Murray

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