David Hart

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> Chicken didn't get fired for doping, he got fired for 'forgetting' to let
> the UCI know about his whereabouts and his lying about his whereabouts.
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> On 7/25/07, Sarah wrote:
> >
> > Kicking the entire team out definitely ups the stakes and creates
> > incentive between the riders on a team to make sure everyone is clean (or at
> > least won't get caught). I bet Kloden is pretty pissed at Vino...
> >
> > More importantly, it ups the ante for sponsors - losing one rider is
> > bad, but losing your entire team is quite a blow. By kicking out the entire
> > team, doping may finally be such a risk that it's not worth it.
> >
> > So, I agree that this could be the "dark before the dawn" where riders
> > start to realize this new situation. Of course, Mao said, "It's always
> > darkest before it's totally black."
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "Malcolm, Gary"
> > To: Lisa ; obra@list.obra.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:20:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] le Tour
> >
> >
> > L,
> >
> > It does put a damper on the fun to say the least. However, this really
> > could be the turning point. Vino disgraced, Astana out, Cofidis out, The
> > Yellow Jersey stripped, Rasty fired and Rabobank unlikely to start tomorrow.
> > This could go a long way toward making riders unwilling to dope themselves
> > and more likely to pressure their peers into clean riding. At the very
> > least, the sponsors deep pockets are going to dry up nullifying the root
> > cause of all this stupidity. The glaring spotlight on the problem is the
> > best disinfectant.
> >
> > My solution would also to include the lifetime banning of support staff
> > for these riders… and the subsequent banning of those groups who maintain
> > professional contact with banned persons.
> >
> > Oh… and unlike David Millar - I'm glad they didn't stop for a moment of
> > silence to commemorate Tom Simpson (the rider who died 40 years ago due to
> > excessive Meth consumption).
> >
> >
> > Gary Malcolm
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Lisa [mailto:karmarenoir@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:17 PM
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] le Tour
> >
> > It sucks that each year seems to get worse with all the doping...sure
> > woulda been nice if all this had been examined and released prior to the
> > start like last year instead of making us sit thru all the BS now
> >
> >
> >
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