tackyglueit
well sure but what happens if the request isn't answered and the required
funding isn't recieved?
On Dec 18, 2007 8:59 AM, Steve Brown wrote:
> I know it can be dangerous to getting involved with a contradiction to
> George, kind of like trying to hold Tim Luther on your hip high into turn
> one at Alpenrose on the bell lap of a matched sprint, but I think the one
> time request for capital funding is not a bad idea. Every couple a years
> we need a few new things. That is the time to ask. If there is a serious
> need for capital funding, suggest someone establish a committee, develop a
> plan and see how it works. Beyond that, a simple request for money to buy
> some new stuff is simple enough.
>
>
> Steve Brown
> On Dec 18, 2007, at 8:39 AM, gschreckchat@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Not that I have a problem with a donation, as I was happy to do so, but
> it seems to be a poor way to address these issues. If this is something
> that OBRA must have, we need a funding source that more or less guaranties
> that the funds will be raised. Donations do not guaranty that the necessary
> funds will be raised, and given the mandatory nature of the sign
> requirements, that is not acceptable.
>
> I would think the OBRA rules should permit a special surcharge to be added
> to the dues for a particular year. OBRA dues are fairly low as it is, and an
> additional $15 surcharge seems fairly minor. I realize that some people may
> think that any additional cost is too much, but this is a necessary cost of
> racing and should be borne by the membership generally. A surcharge would
> more or less ensure that the necessay funds are raised. Donations are fine
> for items that are discretionary, but it is not an adequate mechanism for
> items that are necessary to conduct races. Juniors could still be exempted
> from the surcharge.
>
> --
>
> George Schreck
> gschreckchat@comcast.net
> (503) 502-0425
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
> Not knowing all those details, but assuming pretty much what you and Candi
> just stated was why I posted what I did. I am not sure what I would have
> purchased with the donation I made, but I do know I can live without it for
> now. I am sure any amount people donate will just get OBRA closer to being
> able to continue providing quality support for races.
> ron
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* john
> *To:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2007 5:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Update / road signs
>
>
> It has sounded to me like it has finally come to the point where new road
> signs are a must. The old ones are heavy, cumbersome, possibly dangerous,
> But mainly simply no longer qualified, no longer approved... after a decade
> or so of being accomodating it sounds like counties and state are starting
> to say no. Also if a vehicle did hit a sign and someone got hurt: the
> ensuing liability of having used a non-qualified sign.
> It is not going to be easy to pick out the new sign/stand that best fit
> obra's requirements... i.e. easy to handle, fast setup and takedown, all
> fit in the truck, hard to steal, really durable (or easy to fix),
> stay put in strong wind, yet light,?, etc, etc.. this is simply not going
> to be cheap.
> (this all my personal opinion.. i did do a litle bit of research into
> qualified signs, etc, result was my donation increased.)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Diviney
> To: T. Kenji Sugahara ; OBRA list list >
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:29:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Update
>
> Not sure if this is the correct forum for this question but, since Ron is
> begging (albeit jokingly).....is OBRA in under-funded? I realize more money
> is better than less money, but is there any risk of failure due to
> finances? I don't want to give up my expensive components unless OBRA is on
> the verge of collapse (also joking).
>
> *Ron and Dorothy Strasser * wrote:
>
> Just my 2cents.... Why not ride some semi-expensive component just one
> more
> season instead of replacing it...and contribute that $$$ to obra? Do it
> for
> the children, pets, and general safety of all involved. Just give please!
> ronnie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yann Blindert"
> To: "T. Kenji Sugahara" ; "OBRA list list"
>
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Update
>
>
> > How many members are you expecting to renew or in
> > other words are we tracking to make the $30,000 goal?
> > It seems the average contribution is just over $14.50.
> >
> >
> > Yann
> >
> > --- "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Folks,
> >>
> >> Quick update for y'all. First off - congrats to our
> >> OBRA members who
> >> performed quite well at CCX Natz. We're a ll pro ud
> >> of you.
> >>
> >> Second, 372 of you have renewed thus far with
> >> donations of about
> >> $5,400. We're slowly making our way to our goal of
> >> $30K. Thank you
> >> ALL for donating. Please renew today! (Makes it
> >> easier for Candi and
> >> I to get things ready for you on time)
> >>
> >> Third, the list of folks who will receive BAR awards
> >> at our annual
> >> meeting on January 12th will be announced shortly.
> >>
> >> Fourth, I am looking for women volunteers in
> >> Portland, Salem, Eugene,
> >> Southern Oregon and Bend to serve as volunteer
> >> women's coordinators.
> >> These individuals would serve as information
> >> resources for women
> >> interested in bike racing. (Would likely involve
> >> answering simple
> >> questions- e.g. are there any clinics in the area
> >> etc.) We are< BR>> ;> looking for Cat 3's and above with at least 3
> years
>
> >> of racing
> >> experience.
> >>
> >> Finally, would anyone be interested in creating a
> >> video for the annual
> >> meeting? Contact me off list.
> >>
> >> Thanks so much!
> >>
> >> T. Kenji Sugahara
> >> Assistant Director
> >> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> >> 503-302-4935
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > Yann Blindert
> > 646-662-7508
> > nevens42@yahoo.com
> >
> >
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> *From: *"Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
> *Date: *December 18, 2007 8:14:45 AM PST
> *To: *"john" ,
> *Subject: **Re: [OBRA Chat] Update / road signs*
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