Mike Murray
It strikes me that the people discussing the price here do not realize that
the price of a product are only in part determined by the cost to bring it
to market. The more important determinant is the market value; i.e. what
people are willing to pay. Arguably there might be even more racers at PIR
if the price was lower but there are lots there now. Lots of people are
willing to pay this price. Yes, money is being made but that is the point.
Races are not put on for only altruistic reasons, nor should they be. If
the price is too high then just don't buy. After all, we are not talking
staples of life here.
Mike Murray
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of T B
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 23:57 PM
To: cmurray@obra.org; 'Cobra Kai'; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR retraction
Ok. I did the math. I just had to see for myself. AND WOW!!! This past PIR
was a low attendance. According to the numbers given and all, it was only a
profit of about 330 bucks. On nights such as the Tuesday prior, it seems to
be almost 1300 dollar profit for one race. That seems a ridiculous amount
for a weekly race to profit when single day races struggle to break even. A
weekly series should focus on being affordable. Yes, to most of yall, whats
15 bucks. But it makes people like me, broke and starving, ponder whether it
can be squeezed into an ever tight budget.
My math;
300 for PIR + 50 for the truck + Officials = Give estimate of 550 Dollars
550 + 2.25 (x) where X is number of riders (lets say 150) = 337.5
dollars for insurance
Total cost of event is 337.5 + 550 = 887.50 dollars (which i have to admit
is a pretty hefty bill to have on a weekly basis. its actually almost
outrageous and makes it a wonder it can occur)
So, taken there are 150 riders (which seems to be a fair average to estimate
if not a low average for the entire season).
150 x 15 = 2,250 gross
2,250 - 887.50 = 1,362.50 dollars net profit for ONE night. WOW!!! I
mean...WOW!!! Im in SHOCK! I need this job ASAP!!! (assuming i didn't make
an error in my math)
Am i making anyone's water boil yet :)
I just had to do the math just for s and g's and out of boredom
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From: cmurray@obra.org
To: bikexcr@hotmail.com; cobrakai43@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR retraction
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:27:49 -0700
Part of the problem is the expense.
The PIR track costs almost $300 a night to rent. The truck rental is $50,
the first aid person and the officials all get paid. So I would imagine
that the cost for a PIR is $550 before the first rider shows up. It costs
$2.25 per person for the liability insurance and surcharges.
There is no charge to use Alpenrose. We do not use the truck and the race
organizer is a first aid provider, so the costs are much less then PIR. It
is only $5 entry fee for juniors, adults pay $10.00.
Do the math. If the race organizer doe snot make a profit there will be no
events for you to race.
Candi
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of r r
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:03 PM
To: Cobra Kai; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR retraction
I am going to take this email as an opportunity this jedi has been pondering
over about PIR as well....Why 15 bucks a shot every Tuesday? That seems a
little steep for a weekly event. Unless PIR wants some ungodly amount to use
the venue, 15 almost seems like a drastically over priced for what it is.
Yes, i know you can buy a season pass, but some of us are not in Portland
for the entire PIR season, but want to do more than one PIR a month. At
least the Eugene weekly series is 10, But by far the best deal is 5 bucks to
race on the track. Now thats a steal. And there are officials and everything
there just like PIR, the only possible difference is that PIR wants money
for us being there. But as far as i see it, there is no reason a weekly
series race should cost almost as much as other events that are only held
once a year.
Just some of my thoughts and others that i have gathered over time.
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> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:51:51 -0700
> From: cobrakai43@gmail.com
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR retraction
>
> Cobra Kai would like to retract comments. Flyer was read while practicing
self-asphyxiation with Miyagi's brown belt and he did not realize that 4's
can race with 3's. Since Cobra Kai will now be paying less that $1 per mile,
he may attend. Cobra Kai apologizes to owners of PIR but still feels sorry
for Cat V.
>
> NO SENSEI!!
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