Kevin Hedahl
You are also forgetting officials fees in the calculation, or did you think
that obra officials were volunteers? Also, don't forget porta-john costs,
noise permits, etc. Yes, there is money to be made by organizing cycling
racers. But it is also true that:
- the overall pay isn't very good compared to a professional "job",
- health insurance is not provided,
- you don't get sick days,
- no 401k,
- and nobody seems to appreciate what you do.
Seriously, if you think the price is to high then don't race. If you want in
on the 5-figure salary they are making, then throw a race. Then you'll find
out how much work goes into planning and organizing a race and never
complain again.
/kevin hedahl
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Rick C Johnson
wrote:
> Man, you gotta love our capitalist system! Is this a great country or
> what?
>
> Rick
>
> T B wrote:
>
> > Ok. I did the math. I just had to see for myself. AND WOW!!! This past
> > PIR was a low attendance. According to the numbers given and all, it
> > was only a profit of about 330 bucks. On nights such as the Tuesday
> > prior, it seems to be almost 1300 dollar profit for one race. That
> > seems a ridiculous amount for a weekly race to profit when single day
> > races struggle to break even. A weekly series should focus on being
> > affordable. Yes, to most of yall, whats 15 bucks. But it makes people
> > like me, broke and starving, ponder whether it can be squeezed into an
> > ever tight budget.
> >
> > My math;
> >
> > 300 for PIR + 50 for the truck + Officials = Give estimate of 550
> Dollars
> > 550 + 2.25 (x) where X is number of riders (lets say 150) = 337.5
> > dollars for insurance
> > Total cost of event is 337.5 + 550 = 887.50 dollars (which i have to
> > admit is a pretty hefty bill to have on a weekly basis. its actually
> > almost outrageous and makes it a wonder it can occur)
> >
> > So, taken there are 150 riders (which seems to be a fair average to
> > estimate if not a low average for the entire season).
> >
> > 150 x 15 = 2,250 gross
> >
> > 2,250 - 887.50 = 1,362.50 dollars net profit for ONE night. WOW!!! I
> > mean...WOW!!! Im in SHOCK! I need this job ASAP!!! (assuming i didn't
> > make an error in my math)
> >
> > Am i making anyone's water boil yet :)
> >
> > I just had to do the math just for s and g's and out of boredom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > From: cmurray@obra.org
> > To: bikexcr@hotmail.com; cobrakai43@gmail.com; obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR retraction
> > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:27:49 -0700
> >
> > Part of the problem is the expense.
> > The PIR track costs almost $300 a night to rent. The truck rental
> > is $50, the first aid person and the officials all get paid. So I
> > would imagine that the cost for a PIR is $550 before the first
> > rider shows up. It costs $2.25 per person for the liability
> > insurance and surcharges.
> >
> > There is no charge to use Alpenrose. We do not use the truck and
> > the race organizer is a first aid provider, so the costs are much
> > less then PIR. It is only $5 entry fee for juniors, adults pay
> $10.00.
> >
> > Do the math. If the race organizer doe snot make a profit there
> > will be no events for you to race.
> >
> > Candi
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> > [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] *On Behalf Of *r r
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 28, 2008 9:03 PM
> > *To:* Cobra Kai; obra@list.obra.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR retraction
> >
> > I am going to take this email as an opportunity this jedi has been
> > pondering over about PIR as well....Why 15 bucks a shot every
> > Tuesday? That seems a little steep for a weekly event. Unless PIR
> > wants some ungodly amount to use the venue, 15 almost seems like a
> > drastically over priced for what it is. Yes, i know you can buy a
> > season pass, but some of us are not in Portland for the entire PIR
> > season, but want to do more than one PIR a month. At least the
> > Eugene weekly series is 10, But by far the best deal is 5 bucks to
> > race on the track. Now thats a steal. And there are officials and
> > everything there just like PIR, the only possible difference is
> > that PIR wants money for us being there. But as far as i see it,
> > there is no reason a weekly series race should cost almost as much
> > as other events that are only held once a year.
> >
> > Just some of my thoughts and others that i have gathered over time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:51:51 -0700
> > > From: cobrakai43@gmail.com
> > > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR retraction
> > >
> > > Cobra Kai would like to retract comments. Flyer was read while
> > practicing self-asphyxiation with Miyagi's brown belt and he did
> > not realize that 4's can race with 3's. Since Cobra Kai will now
> > be paying less that $1 per mile, he may attend. Cobra Kai
> > apologizes to owners of PIR but still feels sorry for Cat V.
> > >
> > > NO SENSEI!!
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