david baker
Now you know why pros are so fast, they get to see their times on the big
board as soon as they cross the finish line!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Eschbach"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 6:14 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Are the Eugene TT results out there anywhere?
>
> Kenji thanks for following up with the race promoter on the Eugene TT
> results. I hope that there is not a family emergency or something going
> on
> with Ken and or his family?
>
> If not, I hope that race directors realize that some of us do Time Trials
> to
> gauge our fitness and adjust our training plans. Getting the results a
> week
> later is on the lower end of useful.
>
> On the other hand, I offer to help if you need help getting a Macro going
> in
> excel to help process the data.
>
> Pete Eschbach
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:00 PM
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> Subject: OBRA Digest, Vol 29, Issue 12
>
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> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. On-Line Registration Closing For ChainBreaker MTB Race In
> Bend (Henry Abel)
> 2. Re: Are the Eugene TT results out there anywhere???
> (T. Kenji Sugahara)
> 3. Fast Twitch Friday Schedule for 5.9.08 (Bike Central)
> 4. Albany Criterium Master's Field Change (Robert Hughes)
> 5. FW: [FWD: TTN and CycleOne TEAM UP WORKSHOP] (J.Michael Manning)
> 6. FYI - 2008 Gorge Games mtb events on! (will)
> 7. paging Clint Morey (Julie Browning)
> 8. Results-Alpenrose Very Cold Pursuits (Candi Murray)
> 9. Re: FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett Jarolimek Memorial
> (Craig Rutter)
> 10. Re: FYI - 2008 Gorge Games mtb events on! (T. Kenji Sugahara)
> 11. FS: Junior Road Bike (Georgann Shinn)
> 12. Re: FYI - 2008 Gorge Games mtb events on! (Raggy23)
> 13. FS: 56cm SPECIALIZED ALLEZ COMP $1100 (Sesh)
> 14. RiverCity MTB Series overall updated... (Ben Thompson)
> 15. looking 4 ride to Chainbreaker from PDX (Kevin)
> 16. More info (Was: Goodies looking for a home) (joe cipale)
> 17. The revolution will not be motorized. (David Lord)
> 18. Re: Alpenrose painting Saturday? (Mike Murray)
> 19. Re: FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett Jarolimek Memorial
> (Darell C. Provencher)
> 20. Re: Alpenrose painting Saturday? (Darell C. Provencher)
> 21. Re: Alpenrose painting Saturday? (Mike Murray)
> 22. Re: FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett JarolimekMemorial
> (Ron and Dorothy Strasser)
> 23. Giro Viewing (Evan Plews)
> 24. Re: Giro Viewing (david baker)
> 25. Re: Giro viewing (Barry O'Connor)
> 26. Re: FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett Jarolimek Memorial
> (Yann Blindert)
> 27. Re: looking 4 ride to Chainbreaker from PDX (Sami Fournier)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:07:30 -0700
> From: Henry Abel
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] On-Line Registration Closing For ChainBreaker MTB
> Race In Bend
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <4824a0f25a793_3525156504459fec188b@lizard.tmail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
> Lots and lots of last minute on-line registrations are still coming in for
> the ChainBreaker. We will be accepting your on-line entry up until 2PM
> today.
>
> After 2PM today you can still register, but will need to do it in person
> either here at the shop, or at the race course on the morning of the race.
>
> Let us know if you have questions...
>
> Thanks!
> Henry
> WebCyclery.com
> 541-318-6188
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:11:39 -0700
> From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Are the Eugene TT results out there
> anywhere???
> To: Michael Rebar
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <38A65EEA-B4F2-4644-AFDC-DADB193840B2@obra.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> I just got off the phone with Len. He's working on them.
>
> Also... from Len:
>
> "Please allow up to a week for results to be released."
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 12:54:11 -0700
> From: Bike Central
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fast Twitch Friday Schedule for 5.9.08
> To: "obra@list.obra.org" ,
> "obrarace@list.obra.org"
> Message-ID: <4824ABE3.7020405@bike-central.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Racing starts at 6.30pm, $10 race entry
> See you there!
>
>
> Novice Women Alpenrose Mile
> Sprinters Sprint Round
> Novice Men Unknown Distance
> Sprinters Sprint Round
>
> Novice Women 10 Lap Tempo
> Sprinters Sprint Round
> Novice Men 10 Lap Point-a-Lap
> Sprinters Sprint Round
>
> Novice Women Unknown Distance
> Sprinters Sprint Round
> Novice Men Alpenrose Mile
> Sprinters Sprint Round
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:01:29 -0700
> From: Robert Hughes
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Albany Criterium Master's Field Change
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <4824ad99e376e_be6156280d1557c796@lizard.tmail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> As a consequence of racer feedback the Men's Masters 35+ (III, IV,V) is
> now:
> Men's Masters 40-49; 50+ with each age group scored seperately and with no
> restriction on racing category. Prime laps have only one winner. The
> streets are more than wide enough, and the finishing straight long enough
> for a huge, safe sprint.
>
> Also the Men's Pro/I/II and Women's Pro/I/II/III fields each just received
> an additional $200 dollars prize money courtesy of Central Willamette
> Credit
> Union, so with a field of 40 riders the total cash payout will be at least
> $500.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:07:42 -0700
> From: J.Michael Manning
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FW: [FWD: TTN and CycleOne TEAM UP WORKSHOP]
> To: "obra@list.obra.org"
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>
>
>
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:02:37 -0700
> From: jmichael@cycleone.net
> Subject: [FWD: TTN and CycleOne TEAM UP WORKSHOP]
> To: cycleone23@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> Subject: TTN and CycleOne TEAM UP WORKSHOP
>
> From: "J.CARLOS VALDES"
>
> Date: Thu, May 08, 2008 9:45 pm
>
> To: jmichael@cycleone.net
>
>
>
> Therapeutic Trainers Network- Educational Series
> 2008 You're Invited! FREE WORKSHOP
> TO
> TTN CLIENTS TTN and CycleOne Team Up workshop Come meet Mike Manning
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> can enhance your cycling capabilities when combined with the TTN training
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:48:57 -0700
> From: will
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FYI - 2008 Gorge Games mtb events on!
> To: obra@list.obra.org
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> FYI-
>
> The Gorge Games has mtb events in the following disciplines scheduled on
> July 18-20 this summer:
>>Super D
>>DH/FR
>>Short Track
>
> The OBRA schedule currently has it marked as cancelled but go to
> www.GorgeGames.net for more info.
>
> Enjoy the sun!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:58:53 -0700
> From: "Julie Browning"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] paging Clint Morey
> To:
> Message-ID: <002f01c8b21f$dfaebc00$6801a8c0@BATlaptop>
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> Anyone have a current email for Clint?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Julie
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 15:32:18 -0700
> From: "Candi Murray"
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Results-Alpenrose Very Cold Pursuits
> To: ,
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>
> Place Name Team Time
> Jr Men
> 1 Morey, Camden Zteam 3:43.04
>
> Jr Women
> 1 Graham, Fiona Beaverton Bicycle Clug 3:23.01
>
> Master 50+
> 1 Provencher, Darrell Team Rose City 2:46.13
> 2 Schreck, George Finnegan's Toys/Discover Chiropractic 2:48.06
> 3 Mautner, Paul Team Rose City 2:55.38
> 4 Forbes, John Fred Meyer 3:01.45
> 5 Meinhardt, Gary 3:07.95
>
> Mst Women
> 1 Mautner, Meg Bike Central 3:24.09
> dns Windus, Debra
> dns Curl, Darien
>
>
>
> Cat 3
> 1 Brown, Jay Portland Velo 4:20.28
> 2 Spear, Nathan Half Fast Velo 4:21.78
> 3 Standish, Jeff Therapeutic Associates 4:27.55
> 4 Warner, Charlie Veloce/Felt 4:29.22
>
> Cat 4
> 1 Culpepper, Clint Team Beer 4:33.95
> 2 Kanz, Paul Finnegan's Toys/Discover Chiropractic 4:43.17
> 3 Kentner, Jason Beaverton Bicycle Club 4:45.47
> 4 Boquiren, Joe Portland Velo 4:48.16
> 5 List, Brian Pacific Power 4:52.70
>
> Cat 5
> 1 Cowperthwaite, David Team Oregon/Sunset Cycles 4:20.05
> 2 Kim, John Beaverton Bicycle Club 4:21.99
> 3 Cummings, Jacob 4:26.36
> 4 Butler, Tim River City Bicycles 4:27.00
> 5 Mensher, Daniel Gentle Lovers 4:27.23
> 6 LaVigne, Justin Team Oregon/Sunset Cycles 4:27.53
> 7 Watson, Dan Gentle Lovers 4:27.99
> 8 Schwaeber, Steve Veloce/Felt 4:35.60
> 9 Taylor, Sam Finnegan's Toys/Discover Chiropractic 4:40.85
> 10 Howe, John Team Beer 4:44.63
> dns Wyant, Drew
>
> Mst
> 1 Huff, Robert Half Fast Velo 4:27.51
> 2 Hartigan, Patrick Finnegan's Toys/Discover Chiropractic
> 4:27.95
> 3 Alling, Chris Fred Meyer 4:42.62
>
> Sr Men
> 1 Hosmer, Seth CMG 3:53.23
> 2 Bjesse, Per Bike Central 3:54.04
> 3 Beardsley, Stephen Gentle Lovers 4:00.86
> 4 Drake, Peter Fred Meyer 4:02.60
> 5 Suditu, Richard Beaverton Bicycle Club 4:10.78
> 6 Lingwood, Jimmy 4:13.83
> 7 Hemenway, Daryl Guinness Cycling 4:21.81
> 8 Dumortier, Jerome Beaverton Bicycle Club 4:30.51
>
> Sr Women
> 1 Moon, Miranda Veloforms 4:22.32
> 2 Fisk, Andrea Velo Bella 4:33.23
> 3 Dilles, Anita Portland State University 4:44.92
> 4 Hook, Camille Bike Central 4:46.40
> 5 Bihlmaier, Jeannie Specialized/River City Bicycles 4:47.74
> 6 Charoneau, Emily Therapeutic Associates 5:02.78
> 7 Bjesse-Puffin, Amelia Bike Central 5:09.84
>
> Women Cat 4
> 1 McCarthy, Kristin 5:10.73
> 2 Murphy, Marca Therapeutic Associates 5:15.82
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:00:12 -0700
> From: Craig Rutter
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett Jarolimek
> Memorial
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Cc: mark@veloforma.com, Corey Stayton
> Message-ID: <4824D77C.7020800@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hello,
> I sincerely apologize for any ill feelings or disrespect I may have
> caused, it certainly was not my intention. With that being said I would
> like to address a couple of things since there seems to be a lot of
> assumptions(mostly on my part)about the frameset I recently became owner
> of.
>
> 1) I could not attend the event/fund raiser held May 1st.
> 2) I purchased my raffle tickets online via PayPal.
>
> When I was notified I had won the Veloforma frameset I assumed it was
> just a "regular" frameset and not something special for the event. Even
> when I received emails from James Lingwood and Mark Duff they didn't
> mention anything about the "special" frame. Mark had even said I won
> the F1R and needed to pick a size for myself or a friend, it was mine to
> do whatever I wanted. So they assumed I known what I had won.
>
> I, again, assumed since this was a race frame and I am not a racer, I
> should sell it and use the proceeds to purchase a bike to my riding
> style, a nice touring bike. So that was where the OBRA post originated
> from, I figured someone on this list would be interested. I set the
> price at 2400 since the msrp was 2500 but also said I would take
> reasonable offers. Sure I would have taken less but wanted to start
> high. I would not pick a size and let the purchaser pick one, that gave
> me a larger customer base, if you will.
>
> I did feel awkward for putting something up for sale that I had won and
> even send Mark and email stating so, but hey, if someone really wanted
> the frame they should have it more than I. So last night I emailed
> Mark(again) stating I had changed my mind and I would take the Large,
> just let me know when I could pick it up.
>
> Then later that night I see the email from Mr. Provencher...wow...talk
> about a blow to the gut. I had no idea about the "special" frame.
> Ignorance...it is such bad form, that is the part I feel sick about.
> To be labeled as a person trying to receive a "significant gain" and
> "lining my pockets" really did not help and were just as bad as the
> assumptions I had made.
>
> So that's my story.
> Hopefully it helped explain my actions and we all know they needed
> explaining.
>
> Again, I am sorry.
>
> Craig Rutter
>
>
>
>
>
> mark@veloforma.com wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> I just got in to the office to check emails.
>>
>> Craig sent me an email this morning stating that he would like to KEEP
>> the bike, and has ordered a large F1R. I think his initial concern
>> was/is he is tall and weighs in at 220 and not a racer, that will not
>> be a problem. The bike can handle it. So the frame issue is taken care
>> of...
>>
>> Cory you are correct. This is about Brett, his family and his fund.
>> How his life came to a tragic end. The frame is a extremely small way
>> to memorialize Brett and his life. What's important is about how
>> someone lost there life doing what they truly loved. About keeping his
>> memory alive. It's about doing what we can as a group to help Portland
>> cycling/cyclists thrive. We don't take material things with us when we
>> pass, material goods do us no good once we leave this life, it's about
>> what we do when we are alive that makes all the difference.
>>
>> So lets keep on trying to make a difference in life any way we can...
>> Have a great day everyone and remember how precious life truly is.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Mark Duff - President
>> Veloforma, Inc.
>> WHQ 41991 NW Woollen Rd/ Banks, OR 97106
>> mail PO Box 185/ Banks, OR 97106
>> tel 971.255.9375 cell 503.789.6735
>> fax 503.625.0768
>> www.veloforma.com
>> www.veloforma.blogspot.com
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:18:47 -0700
> From: "T. Kenji Sugahara"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FYI - 2008 Gorge Games mtb events on!
> To: will
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <7860BD54-1516-4B18-9ABD-E16C746E0EB0@obra.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Correct.
>
> We are currently waiting to hear from the new promoters. It was
> cancelled a while back but now it is back on.
>
> T. Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> 503-302-4935
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 9, 2008, at 2:48 PM, will wrote:
>
>> FYI-
>>
>> The Gorge Games has mtb events in the following disciplines
>> scheduled on July 18-20 this summer:
>>> Super D
>>> DH/FR
>>> Short Track
>>
>> The OBRA schedule currently has it marked as cancelled but go to
> www.GorgeGames.net
>> for more info.
>>
>> Enjoy the sun!
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:51:12 -0700
> From: Georgann Shinn
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: Junior Road Bike
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <4824e3706840f_be6156281e6453096c@lizard.tmail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Raceworthy XS Cannondale road bike for sale. Brand new Ultegra
> components.
> 650c wheels. Suitable for appx 9-12 year olds, or small adult.
> $675 Email for pics or more info
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 17:47:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Raggy23
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FYI - 2008 Gorge Games mtb events on!
> To: will
> Cc: "obra@list.obra.org"
> Message-ID: <263766.93500.qm@web53005.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Nice of them to check the schedule willamette pass has a super d and dh
> that
> same weekend
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 9, 2008, at 2:48 PM, will wrote:
>
> FYI-
>
> The Gorge Games has mtb events in the following disciplines scheduled on
> July 18-20 this summer:
> Super D
> DH/FR
> Short Track
>
> The OBRA schedule currently has it marked as cancelled but go to
> www.GorgeGames.net for more info.
>
> Enjoy the sun!
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:04:12 -0700
> From: Sesh
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: 56cm SPECIALIZED ALLEZ COMP $1100
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <4824f48cc9a0d_57fa15bbf79939281c7@lizard.tmail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a completely stock 2006 Allez Comp in a 56 cm frame for sale. This
> bike has been meticulously cared for and barely has a scratch on it. I am
> looking at some other bikes and just need to liquidate this one. I'll take
> $1100 firm. 541-207-2026
>
> Sesh
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:12:17 -0700
> From: Ben Thompson
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] RiverCity MTB Series overall updated...
> To: "obra@list.obra.org" ,
> "obrarace@list.obra.org"
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Check out the latest and greatest individual and team ranking updates.
> Pistis MTB team did a great job down at Spring Thaw for the most points
> this
> week in the overall race. Check it out here...
> ------------------------------------------------------------- Presented by
> RiverCity Cycles with special thanks to SoBe-Cannondale / Breakaway
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:29:59 -0700
> From: Kevin
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] looking 4 ride to Chainbreaker from PDX
> To: obra@list.obra.org
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> Hi y'all,
>
> I'm looking for a round trip ride from Portland to the chainbreaker (this
> weekend). Can split fuel costs. Give me a call if you've got room.
>
> --Kevin
> 503.901.7853
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 19:30:34 -0700
> From: joe cipale
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] More info (Was: Goodies looking for a home)
> To: OBRA
> Message-ID: <1210386634.23723.17.camel@humboldt>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> For those of you looking for more info about my previous post:
> 1 - Shimano 600 Hollowtech (Ultegra): This is crank arms only with
> Octalink Sealed Cartridge Bottom bracket.
>
> 2 - 56 tooth Shimano (130 BCD) Chain Ring
>
> 3 - 48 tooth Sugino chain ring
>
> 4 - 7-spd (12-21) Regina Extra freewheel (perfect for that retro bike
> you are meaning to restore). Still lots of miles left...
>
> 5 - Two(2) 8-spd (12-23) Ultegra Hyperglide cassettes.
>
> 6 - One paair of Shimano 600 (Ultegra) brake calipers
>
> 7 - One pair of Look Carbon Pro pedals
>
> 8 - One set of Ultegra 8-spd bar-end shifters w/cable stops and cable
> guide.
>
> As before, OBRA gets first shot. Reasonable offers accepted before they
> go elsewhere.
>
> Joe Cipale
> 360-931-3143
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 19:42:36 -0700
> From: David Lord
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The revolution will not be motorized.
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <48250b9c2b4a5_be6156281defd70107a@lizard.tmail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> From: Joe Kurmaskie
> Date: May 9, 2008 1:44:17 PM PDT
> To: Joe Kurmaskie
> Subject: onemllionbicycles.org kick off video - save this date, join the
> revolution now!
>
> Hi gang - Our kick off video for the national campaign is on youtube and
> bikeportland.org, and we are doing major upgrades to the website this
> weekend - Check out the video, make comments, ratings and spread it far
> and
> wide. Next week, I'll put in real hours on press releases, dotting i's
> etc.
> Kick ass/funny psa is also in the works... stay tuned. Until then, enjoy,
> and help by registering yourself and spreading the revolution with/for us
> across the internet and beyond. Thanks in advance,
> Joe Metal Cowboy Kurmaskie
> www.onemillionbicycles.org
> Are you one of the million yet?
>
> Find out more by watching at YouTube Video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wCz68vaNJw
>
>
> If you support CrankMyChain! CycleTV and this great project be sure to
> register at http://onemillionbicycles.org/register.html. Also, help our
> video get some legs at YouTube today by rating it 5-stars, commenting,
> favoriting, and embedding the video on your own site.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:06:17 -0700
> From: "Mike Murray"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose painting Saturday?
> To: "'Peter Welte'" ,
> Message-ID: <000401c8b24a$dbee2300$9601a8c0@MikeLT>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Definitely on. Looks like the weather will cooperate.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Peter Welte
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 21:44 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose painting Saturday?
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm interested in riding up to Alpenrose Saturday morning with some
> friends
> fromPSU Cycling to help paint.
>
> The webpage [1] for the event said it is 'weather permitting', and to
> check
> the mailing list for info but I haven't seen any about it - I'm curious if
> the event is still on?
>
> thanks!
>
> -peter
>
> 1: http://www.obra.org/track/flyers/2008/track_cleanup.html
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:14:03 -0700
> From: "Darell C. Provencher"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett Jarolimek
> Memorial
> To: "Craig Rutter"
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org, mark@veloforma.com, Corey Stayton
>
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Since I started this string I feel compelled to conclude it. As
> Shakespeare
> said, "All's well that ends well." Perhaps the lesson learned here is how
> do
> we judge the perceived gap between actions vs intention. What initially
> spurred me to send my first message was the statement of actions with
> little
> or no informatoin about intent, which led me and others to fill in the
> intentions. This terrible situation of losing a fellow cyclist often has a
> deeply embedded emotional layer to it, which I have felt in a similar
> tragedy in losing my friend Eric Kautzky. These emotions are also felt by
> Brett's friends, as I witnessed from personal conversations and emails
> sent
> to me over the last two days.
>
> So I sent out my message, without first verifying the intentions of Mr.
> Rutter. Perhaps next time I should send an offline message first to
> understand the context and intention. Several of us let our emotions
> outweigh other possible intentions. I beleve Mr. Rutter's response today
> was
> sincere and genuine, and included some valuable self-insights.
>
> And I think Corey Stayton's email is on target when he said, "It is about
> the Brett Jarolimek Fund and the meaning behind it is a powerful one
> shaped
> by all of the people who contributed to the fund that night or at anytime
> and care about the big picture of cycling in Portland."
>
> I'll write my check to Brett's Fund tonite, and I hope that in a small way
> it will contribute to the cycling community, while helping me continue to
> heal as well.
>
> Darell
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Craig Rutter
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I sincerely apologize for any ill feelings or disrespect I may have
> caused,
>> it certainly was not my intention. With that being said I would like to
>> address a couple of things since there seems to be a lot of
>> assumptions(mostly on my part)about the frameset I recently became owner
> of.
>>
>> 1) I could not attend the event/fund raiser held May 1st.
>> 2) I purchased my raffle tickets online via PayPal.
>>
>> When I was notified I had won the Veloforma frameset I assumed it was
>> just
>> a "regular" frameset and not something special for the event. Even when
>> I
>> received emails from James Lingwood and Mark Duff they didn't mention
>> anything about the "special" frame. Mark had even said I won the F1R and
>> needed to pick a size for myself or a friend, it was mine to do whatever
>> I
>> wanted. So they assumed I known what I had won.
>>
>> I, again, assumed since this was a race frame and I am not a racer, I
>> should sell it and use the proceeds to purchase a bike to my riding
>> style,
> a
>> nice touring bike. So that was where the OBRA post originated from, I
>> figured someone on this list would be interested. I set the price at
>> 2400
>> since the msrp was 2500 but also said I would take reasonable offers.
> Sure
>> I would have taken less but wanted to start high. I would not pick a
>> size
>> and let the purchaser pick one, that gave me a larger customer base, if
> you
>> will.
>> I did feel awkward for putting something up for sale that I had won and
>> even send Mark and email stating so, but hey, if someone really wanted
>> the
>> frame they should have it more than I. So last night I emailed
> Mark(again)
>> stating I had changed my mind and I would take the Large, just let me
>> know
>> when I could pick it up.
>>
>> Then later that night I see the email from Mr. Provencher...wow...talk
>> about a blow to the gut. I had no idea about the "special" frame.
>> Ignorance...it is such bad form, that is the part I feel sick about.
>> To be labeled as a person trying to receive a "significant gain" and
>> "lining my pockets" really did not help and were just as bad as the
>> assumptions I had made.
>>
>> So that's my story. Hopefully it helped explain my actions and we all
>> know
>> they needed explaining.
>> Again, I am sorry.
>>
>> Craig Rutter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> mark@veloforma.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>> I just got in to the office to check emails.
>>>
>>> Craig sent me an email this morning stating that he would like to KEEP
> the
>>> bike, and has ordered a large F1R. I think his initial concern was/is he
> is
>>> tall and weighs in at 220 and not a racer, that will not be a problem.
> The
>>> bike can handle it. So the frame issue is taken care of...
>>>
>>> Cory you are correct. This is about Brett, his family and his fund. How
>>> his life came to a tragic end. The frame is a extremely small way to
>>> memorialize Brett and his life. What's important is about how someone
> lost
>>> there life doing what they truly loved. About keeping his memory alive.
> It's
>>> about doing what we can as a group to help Portland cycling/cyclists
> thrive.
>>> We don't take material things with us when we pass, material goods do us
> no
>>> good once we leave this life, it's about what we do when we are alive
> that
>>> makes all the difference.
>>>
>>> So lets keep on trying to make a difference in life any way we can...
> Have
>>> a great day everyone and remember how precious life truly is.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Mark Duff - President
>>> Veloforma, Inc.
>>> WHQ 41991 NW Woollen Rd/ Banks, OR 97106
>>> mail PO Box 185/ Banks, OR 97106
>>> tel 971.255.9375 cell 503.789.6735
>>> fax 503.625.0768
>>> www.veloforma.com
>>> www.veloforma.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:14:42 -0700
> From: "Darell C. Provencher"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose painting Saturday?
> To: mike.murray@obra.org
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID:
>
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>
> Pancakes???
>
>
>
>
> 2008/5/9 Mike Murray :
>
>> Definitely on. Looks like the weather will cooperate.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
>> *On
>> Behalf Of *Peter Welte
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 08, 2008 21:44 PM
>> *To:* obra@list.obra.org
>> *Subject:* [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose painting Saturday?
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm interested in riding up to Alpenrose Saturday morning with some
>> friends fromPSU Cycling to help paint.
>>
>> The webpage [1] for the event said it is 'weather permitting', and to
>> check the mailing list for info but I haven't seen any about it - I'm
>> curious if the event is still on?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> -peter
>>
>> 1: http://www.obra.org/track/flyers/2008/track_cleanup.html
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:18:55 -0700
> From: "Mike Murray"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose painting Saturday?
> To: "'Darell C. Provencher'"
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <001901c8b24c$94c4c040$9601a8c0@MikeLT>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Definitely Yes!! Chris King and company will be making pancakes. And
> Candi
> has been making cookies all day.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darell C. Provencher [mailto:darellp@easystreet.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 20:15 PM
> To: mike.murray@obra.org
> Cc: Peter Welte; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose painting Saturday?
>
>
> Pancakes???
>
>
>
>
> 2008/5/9 Mike Murray :
>
>
> Definitely on. Looks like the weather will cooperate.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Peter Welte
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 21:44 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Alpenrose painting Saturday?
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm interested in riding up to Alpenrose Saturday morning with some
> friends
> fromPSU Cycling to help paint.
>
> The webpage [1] for the event said it is 'weather permitting', and to
> check
> the mailing list for info but I haven't seen any about it - I'm curious if
> the event is still on?
>
> thanks!
>
> -peter
>
> 1: http://www.obra.org/track/flyers/2008/track_cleanup.html
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Note NEW email address is darellp@easystreet.net -- no longer .com
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>
> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:46:21 -0700
> From: "Ron and Dorothy Strasser"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett
> JarolimekMemorial
> To: "Craig Rutter" ,
> Cc: mark@veloforma.com, Corey Stayton
> Message-ID: <00a101c8b250$69eb3850$0700a8c0@ronfc8bcccf52c>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Craig,
> As someone that has just been racing since Fall of 2004 and
> touring/commuting since 1969...not to worry about wanting a bike that fits
> your needs. I commend you for supporting the Brett fund by purchasing a
> ticket. Mark Duff summed up our trip here on earth pretty darn well. You
> have done nothing wrong and neither did Darell. What can happen with us
> humans (and emails seem to heighten this tendency at times) is we can be
> misunderstood or misinterpreted. This is what I believe happened. You
> are
> going to be getting a beautiful bike. Thank you for supporting the fund.
> Thank Darell for supporting the fund and thanks to Mark and Veloforma for
> supporting the fund. I just wish I could learn to not "assume things".
> Being married has helped me get better at this, but it sure is an easy
> mindset to fall into.
> take care,
> ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Craig Rutter"
> To:
> Cc: ; "Corey Stayton"
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett
> JarolimekMemorial
>
>
>> Hello,
>> I sincerely apologize for any ill feelings or disrespect I may have
>> caused, it certainly was not my intention. With that being said I would
>> like to address a couple of things since there seems to be a lot of
>> assumptions(mostly on my part)about the frameset I recently became owner
>> of.
>>
>> 1) I could not attend the event/fund raiser held May 1st.
>> 2) I purchased my raffle tickets online via PayPal.
>>
>> When I was notified I had won the Veloforma frameset I assumed it was
>> just a "regular" frameset and not something special for the event. Even
>> when I received emails from James Lingwood and Mark Duff they didn't
>> mention anything about the "special" frame. Mark had even said I won
>> the F1R and needed to pick a size for myself or a friend, it was mine to
>> do whatever I wanted. So they assumed I known what I had won.
>>
>> I, again, assumed since this was a race frame and I am not a racer, I
>> should sell it and use the proceeds to purchase a bike to my riding
>> style, a nice touring bike. So that was where the OBRA post originated
>> from, I figured someone on this list would be interested. I set the
>> price at 2400 since the msrp was 2500 but also said I would take
>> reasonable offers. Sure I would have taken less but wanted to start
>> high. I would not pick a size and let the purchaser pick one, that gave
>> me a larger customer base, if you will.
>>
>> I did feel awkward for putting something up for sale that I had won and
>> even send Mark and email stating so, but hey, if someone really wanted
>> the frame they should have it more than I. So last night I emailed
>> Mark(again) stating I had changed my mind and I would take the Large,
>> just let me know when I could pick it up.
>>
>> Then later that night I see the email from Mr. Provencher...wow...talk
>> about a blow to the gut. I had no idea about the "special" frame.
>> Ignorance...it is such bad form, that is the part I feel sick about.
>> To be labeled as a person trying to receive a "significant gain" and
>> "lining my pockets" really did not help and were just as bad as the
>> assumptions I had made.
>>
>> So that's my story.
>> Hopefully it helped explain my actions and we all know they needed
>> explaining.
>>
>> Again, I am sorry.
>>
>> Craig Rutter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> mark@veloforma.com wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> I just got in to the office to check emails.
>>>
>>> Craig sent me an email this morning stating that he would like to KEEP
>>> the bike, and has ordered a large F1R. I think his initial concern
>>> was/is he is tall and weighs in at 220 and not a racer, that will not
>>> be a problem. The bike can handle it. So the frame issue is taken care
>>> of...
>>>
>>> Cory you are correct. This is about Brett, his family and his fund.
>>> How his life came to a tragic end. The frame is a extremely small way
>>> to memorialize Brett and his life. What's important is about how
>>> someone lost there life doing what they truly loved. About keeping his
>>> memory alive. It's about doing what we can as a group to help Portland
>>> cycling/cyclists thrive. We don't take material things with us when we
>>> pass, material goods do us no good once we leave this life, it's about
>>> what we do when we are alive that makes all the difference.
>>>
>>> So lets keep on trying to make a difference in life any way we can...
>>> Have a great day everyone and remember how precious life truly is.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Mark Duff - President
>>> Veloforma, Inc.
>>> WHQ 41991 NW Woollen Rd/ Banks, OR 97106
>>> mail PO Box 185/ Banks, OR 97106
>>> tel 971.255.9375 cell 503.789.6735
>>> fax 503.625.0768
>>> www.veloforma.com
>>> www.veloforma.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:02:38 +0000
> From: Evan Plews
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Giro Viewing
> To: OBRA list list
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
>
> My apologies for being uninformed but anyone privy to watching the Giro
> online this year? Thanks.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get Free (PRODUCT) RED? Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics.
> http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 21:13:01 -0700
> From: "david baker"
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Giro Viewing
> To: "Evan Plews" , "OBRA list list"
>
> Message-ID: <9015BA80B80D46C38CF244C507861BC8@davidPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> reply-type=original
>
> you can buy it here for 30 bucks
> http://www.cycling.tv/extras/packages/giro-ditalia
> or if you have dish network you can order RAI for 10 bucks a month
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Evan Plews"
> To: "OBRA list list"
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:02 PM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Giro Viewing
>
>
>
> My apologies for being uninformed but anyone privy to watching the Giro
> online this year? Thanks.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get Free (PRODUCT) RED? Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics.
> http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 21:55:37 -0700
> From: Barry O'Connor
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Giro viewing
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Message-ID: <48252ac9732cb_580315d3b27c4368123@lizard.tmail>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Last year RAI website streamed it for free. Link was posted on
> steephill.tv
>
> -Barry
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 22:08:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Yann Blindert
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett Jarolimek
> Memorial
> To: obra@list.obra.org, Craig Rutter
> Cc: mark@veloforma.com, Corey Stayton
> Message-ID: <555394.47219.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Sorry Craig,
>
> I apologize for jumping to conclusions. My main goal was to refocus the
> energy back to contributing to the fund.
>
> Thank you for contributing. From what I heard and saw, the fund raising
> event was quite successful.
>
> Yann
>
> --- On Fri, 5/9/08, Craig Rutter wrote:
>
>> From: Craig Rutter
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FS: Veloforma F1R Frameset -- Brett Jarolimek
> Memorial
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Cc: "Corey Stayton" , mark@veloforma.com,
> "Darell C. Provencher" , nevens42@yahoo.com
>> Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 7:00 PM
>> Hello,
>> I sincerely apologize for any ill feelings or disrespect I
>> may have
>> caused, it certainly was not my intention. With that being
>> said I would
>> like to address a couple of things since there seems to be
>> a lot of
>> assumptions(mostly on my part)about the frameset I recently
>> became owner of.
>>
>> 1) I could not attend the event/fund raiser held May 1st.
>> 2) I purchased my raffle tickets online via PayPal.
>>
>> When I was notified I had won the Veloforma frameset I
>> assumed it was
>> just a "regular" frameset and not something
>> special for the event. Even
>> when I received emails from James Lingwood and Mark Duff
>> they didn't
>> mention anything about the "special" frame. Mark
>> had even said I won
>> the F1R and needed to pick a size for myself or a friend,
>> it was mine to
>> do whatever I wanted. So they assumed I known what I had
>> won.
>>
>> I, again, assumed since this was a race frame and I am not
>> a racer, I
>> should sell it and use the proceeds to purchase a bike to
>> my riding
>> style, a nice touring bike. So that was where the OBRA
>> post originated
>> from, I figured someone on this list would be interested.
>> I set the
>> price at 2400 since the msrp was 2500 but also said I would
>> take
>> reasonable offers. Sure I would have taken less but wanted
>> to start
>> high. I would not pick a size and let the purchaser pick
>> one, that gave
>> me a larger customer base, if you will.
>>
>> I did feel awkward for putting something up for sale that I
>> had won and
>> even send Mark and email stating so, but hey, if someone
>> really wanted
>> the frame they should have it more than I. So last night I
>> emailed
>> Mark(again) stating I had changed my mind and I would take
>> the Large,
>> just let me know when I could pick it up.
>>
>> Then later that night I see the email from Mr.
>> Provencher...wow...talk
>> about a blow to the gut. I had no idea about the
>> "special" frame.
>> Ignorance...it is such bad form, that is the part I feel
>> sick about.
>> To be labeled as a person trying to receive a
>> "significant gain" and
>> "lining my pockets" really did not help and were
>> just as bad as the
>> assumptions I had made.
>>
>> So that's my story.
>> Hopefully it helped explain my actions and we all know they
>> needed
>> explaining.
>>
>> Again, I am sorry.
>>
>> Craig Rutter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> mark@veloforma.com wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> > I just got in to the office to check emails.
>> >
>> > Craig sent me an email this morning stating that he
>> would like to KEEP
>> > the bike, and has ordered a large F1R. I think his
>> initial concern
>> > was/is he is tall and weighs in at 220 and not a
>> racer, that will not
>> > be a problem. The bike can handle it. So the frame
>> issue is taken care
>> > of...
>> >
>> > Cory you are correct. This is about Brett, his family
>> and his fund.
>> > How his life came to a tragic end. The frame is a
>> extremely small way
>> > to memorialize Brett and his life. What's
>> important is about how
>> > someone lost there life doing what they truly loved.
>> About keeping his
>> > memory alive. It's about doing what we can as a
>> group to help Portland
>> > cycling/cyclists thrive. We don't take material
>> things with us when we
>> > pass, material goods do us no good once we leave this
>> life, it's about
>> > what we do when we are alive that makes all the
>> difference.
>> >
>> > So lets keep on trying to make a difference in life
>> any way we can...
>> > Have a great day everyone and remember how precious
>> life truly is.
>> >
>> > Best Regards
>> >
>> > Mark Duff - President
>> > Veloforma, Inc.
>> > WHQ 41991 NW Woollen Rd/ Banks, OR 97106
>> > mail PO Box 185/ Banks, OR 97106
>> > tel 971.255.9375 cell 503.789.6735
>> > fax 503.625.0768
>> > www.veloforma.com
>> > www.veloforma.blogspot.com
>>
>> >
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> Message: 27
> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:15:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sami Fournier
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] looking 4 ride to Chainbreaker from PDX
> To: Kevin , obra@list.obra.org
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> I can help with one way -- from Bend to PDX on Monday
> AM. (we also have space to host a racer here in
> Bend.)
>
> Sami
>
> --- Kevin wrote:
>
>> Hi y'all,
>>
>> I'm looking for a round trip ride from Portland to
>> the chainbreaker (this weekend). Can split fuel
>> costs. Give me a call if you've got room.
>>
>> --Kevin
>> 503.901.7853
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