Geoff Hill
I have excellent health insurance and it does NOT cover rides home
from the hospital. Neither will national health care. Call a cab.
On May 27, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Ed wrote:
> I'm not drunk, poor, or without friends, but this happened to me too.
>
> Hospitals should never release people to the street.
>
> Attitudes, such as the one below, are among the reasons why we will
> have National Health Care in America. Until then, God help us all.
>
> Mike Murray wrote:
> As an ED doc I have to point out that people arriving by ambulance
> and then having no way to get home is at least a daily, if not a
> several times per day event. Of course often these are people that
> have few resources, are intoxicated or otherwise socially
> disadvantaged. Somewhat ironically, they often think that it is our
> responsibility, as the medical care providers, to figure this one
> out for them. I am often tempted to ask them if we should also try
> to figure out how to pay their rent or buy them groceries too.
>
> I think that Mike is to be commended in planning to cover this issue
> for people but it is certainly not something that he, or any other
> race organizer, is responsible for. The people that pointed out
> that this is what friends and family members are for are correct.
> After all, what good are friends if you don't use them? There is
> also the option of taxi, public transportation, car rental, etc.
> although this is often expensive, time consuming and difficult to
> arrange in many areas. Friends, and good ones, are generally more
> dependable.
>
>
> Mike Murray
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> On Behalf Of J.Michael Manning
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 16:06 PM
> To: markjginsberg@yahoo.com; chuck; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] cat 3 crash
>
> Well it appears that the consensus is against me. Let me make it
> clear that I am not criticizing OBRA or the guys at Three Rivers
> Racing. Nonetheless, I will provide this service at my race in the
> event that a rider may need assistance. In my 25 years of racing,
> though I have crashed numerous times, it is the first time I have
> been hospitalized. Neither have I been in a situation where I felt
> responsible for another athlete. It was simply an eye opener, as I
> had to wait at the hospital for almost 2 hours after being
> discharged. That gave me plenty of time to think it over.
> Mike
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:51:28 -0700
> From: markjginsberg@yahoo.com
> To: cycleone23@hotmail.com; broncos0797321@yahoo.com; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] cat 3 crash
>
> sorry, Mike,
> I am with Chuck on this one, while it is hard to get back FROM the
> hospital, the race doesn't owe that to you.
>
> Mark
>
> "J.Michael Manning" wrote:
> Yeah...that sounds simple enough. But it doesn't always work that
> way. I was accompanied by one of my athletes who was scheduled to
> race at 2:00 and he was not notified by the officials until 10
> minutes before his start time. Besides, he should not have to miss
> his race because of my misfortune.
> Mike Manning
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:18:55 -0700
> > From: broncos0797321@yahoo.com
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] cat 3 crash
> >
> > The system I have relied on is called teammates:)
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