Joel Morrissette
We did fine last week when we were passed. I think the lead couple of guys
were just going a little too fast, we caught up to tell them to back off,
and then we went too soon. Next week, we'll go reeeeaaaall slow on neutral.
= )
-Joel
2008/5/27 Mike Murray :
> The applicable rule is:
>
>
>
> 15.1.3 Field passing - Should a field catch another field of racers that
> started separately (except in a Handicap Race) the slower field will slow
> and ride at a neutral speed as soon as practical after they are caught by
> the faster field or its lead car to allow the faster field to pass. They
> will then continue to ride at a neutral slowed pace until the faster field
> is 300 meters ahead or until they are released by an official attending
> their race. The field being passed will stay to the far right of the road
> allowing room for the passing field unless instructed by an official
> otherwise. Passes will not occur in the final 2 kilometers of a race. Riders
> will not pass unless there is clear space to pass subject to rule 15.1.2."
>
> Although there is some interpretation here, I don't think that the 1/2/3
> field should be considered the ""slower field" even if they are temporarily
> moving slower. It is not reasonable to expect that the Cat 4/5 field, which
> has already lost a considerable amount of ground to the Cat 1/2/3 field,
> will now be able to pass and maintain a lead on the Cat 1/2/3 field for any
> length of time. In general, if a passed field catches the field that had
> previously passed them the error is that the period of neutralization was
> too short. This is difficult at PIR since it is self policed. Personally I
> think this would be a lot easier if PIR routinely had a lead and follow
> vehicle for each field because the lead vehicle could hold back the passed
> field longer. There are those that disagree with me however.
>
> Mike Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Joel Morrissette
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2008 15:35 PM
> *To:* Candi Murray
> *Cc:* obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Rules
>
> Candi-
> I was in the 4/5 race last night and there was quite a bit of confusion
> after the 1/2/3s passed, so I'm CCing the list so everyone can benefit. We
> went neutral and let them pass, then waited until we had a few-hundred-yard
> gap before it was "game on". Apparently, the 1/2/3 field had let the gas
> off quite a bit by the time we had all reached the front straightaway, and
> the 4/5s closed in. We went left, assuming they would in turn go neutral to
> let us pass. They never really did - we slowed up, they sped up, we chased
> each other and finally got it worked out. What should have been protocol at
> this point? Should the 1/2/3s have gone neutral to let us pass? What do we
> do when we find ourselves going faster than the passing group and closing
> the gap back up?
>
> Thanks,
> Joel
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Candi Murray wrote:
>
>> OBRA rules can be found at http://www.obra.org/word_docs/2008rules.doc
>>
>> Last night at PIR, the winner of the 3/4 race was disqualified for taking
>> his hands off the handlebars at the finish. This was a specific
>> instruction
>> given at the start of the race by the officials and deemed 'dangerous'
>> riding. Another rule that needs to be enforced more at PIR is the one that
>> states that riders from one group cannot take pace or ride with riders
>> from
>> another. If you do not understand the neutralization procedure, please
>> ask.
>>
>>
>>
>> Candi
>>
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