Joe Cipale
I just have a fundamental probelm with the concept of 'purchasing' Carbon Offsets. It just smacks of environmental as well as Corporate hypocrisy...
gschreckchat wrote:
> It promotes bike racing on an automobile racing track. Does that not pollute less than an auto race?
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> George Schreck
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> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Susan Otcenas"
>
> > Yes, I know some people ride there. Many other drive. But, that's not
> > the point. Carbon offsets are about carbon emitters "purchasing" the
> > right to pollute. Sellers of offsets are generate them from
> > emissions-reducing projects, like a wind farm. The sale of offsets are
> > supposed to provide funds to encourage those emissions-reducing
> > industries to thrive.
> >
> > A bike race is not a carbon reducing industry that should be benefitting
> > from funds for carbon offsets. That's what's wrong with it.
> >
> > Susan
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Susan Otcenas
> > TEAM ESTROGEN, INC.
> > http://www.TeamEstrogen.com
> > 1-877-310-4592
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Cycling Apparel and Accessories for Women
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hagenkt@mac.com [mailto:hagenkt@mac.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:38 AM
> > To: Susan Otcenas; obra@list.obra.org
> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR July Series - $700 cash prize list!
> >
> > Tons of people ride to PIR. Those of us that can't probably have
> > legitimate reasons. I think this is what providing corporations the
> > opportunity to buy carbon offsets is all about. Before this, we didn't
> > have prize money, now we do. What's wrong with that?
> >
> > Karsten
> >
> >
> > On 7/8/08 9:21 AM, "Susan Otcenas" wrote:
> >
> > > So, a bunch of people drive to a bike race.... And a car company gets
> > > carbon offsets for providing prize money?
> > >
> > > Maybe someone brighter than me can explain how prize money for a bike
> > > race translates into offsetting carbon emissions.
> > >
> > > Susan
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > Susan Otcenas
> > > TEAM ESTROGEN, INC.
> > > http://www.TeamEstrogen.com
> > > 1-877-310-4592
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > Cycling Apparel and Accessories for Women
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> > > On Behalf Of Jim Anderson
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:54 AM
> > > To: obra@list.obra.org; obrarace@list.obra.org; Candi Murray/Oregon
> > > Bicycle Racing Assn; OREGON BICYCLE RACING ASSOCIATION; Dave
> > > Aldersebaes
> > > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tuesday PIR July Series - $700 cash prize list!
> > >
> > > Reposting for Jeff.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yep, $700 cash money.
> > >
> > > Thanks to Mazda seeking carbon off-sets, the Tuesday nighter July
> > > series will have an additional $700 on the line.
> > >
> > > The breakdown will be as follows:
> > >
> > > *Individual* SERIES winner take all for each category as follows.
> > >
> > > Cat 4/5 - $100
> > > Cat 3/4 - $200
> > > Cat 1/2 - $300
> > >
> > > *Trofeo Fast Team Classification* (Cat 1/2/3 only) - $100 cash. To be
> > > comprised of the aggregate placings of the Top 3 fastest racers on a
> > > given team. Start practicing your lead-outs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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