david baker
Good point,
I know with mt bike tires I decided to go "UST only" after a couple of problems trying to piece things together, I am sure there are some combos that work fine. But if I am out of town and tear a sidewall I want to go into a bike shop with confidence and just simply ask for a ust tire.
For me it is all about simplicity, reliability, and most of all the performance you get with tubeless, I would rather put down tube shifters, a kick-stand, and reflectors on my wheels before going back to tubes.
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Voldengen
To: OBRA list
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tubeless clinchers - fad or
Kinda veering of course here, but...
I don't have any experience with road tubeless, but I've been considering converting a pair of ksyriums over for a good year now.
I do have experience using tubeless clinchers for cyclocross, though. The bead design on the rim DOES make a difference, as does the design of the rim. Width, depth of drop channel (from bead to spoke bed), and maybe even bead design all make a difference.
Tubeless specific rims have a tubeless friendly bead. I am pretty sure it's a mixed bag with everything else out there. Some rims will work great, some will not. That's most likely why Hutchinson says it does not work on other wheels, because it doesn't work on ALL other wheels.
Stans does sell conversion kits, just as they do for MTB and now cyclocross. But they don't tell you what rims and tires work best, and even then, I don't believe their "data" is reliable. I followed their advice 100% and ended up rolling a tire off in my first 'cross race. I then called Cyclepath, and followed Bill's advice to arrive at a very reliable solution.
So you need to figure it out for yourself, and trial and error on pavement isn't something I'm super pumped to try. Just because Stans sells a conversion kit doesn't mean it's going to be as reliable as the Shimano wheels. I just wanted to make sure that was clear to everyone considering trying this out.
I'm not saying don't try it, just to be careful with what you try it with.
-Erik
2008/7/8 :
That is interesting as Hutchinson says it does not work on other wheels due to the lack of a larger hook in the rim for the bead in other wheels. On the other hand, it is hard to argue with experience and it would be nice to have more options.
Apparently, Camply and Specialized (using Campy rims) are making wheels for tubeless tires as well, but those will be expensive options.
George Schreck
gschreckchat@comcast.net
(503) 502-0425
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