Eric Kytola
Craig is dead on. numbers are falling right? so why not move the
schedule back!? move it into the summer. May through September. that way
i can ride mountain bikes with my kids in the spring so they will be
ready to race when schools out. then as the races are going on in nice
weather we will be able to camp and show up to race, making a weekend of
it instead of a long day of driving out of it. plus like others i am
sure, my kids play soccer in the spring which conflicts with the early
spring race season. whereas right now, my kids have no sports to do. and
it happens....we are riding our bikes a lot during this nice weather and
Leif doesn't understand why there aren't any mountain bike races when
it's so nice out. i am focusing on kids here because XC mountain bike
racing needs more kids badly, or it will die.
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Craig Austin
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:44 AM
To: RCJohnson1@attglobal.net; Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
Cc: obra@list.obra.org; jpweathe@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Why weren't you at SkiBowl today to race?
Is it just me, or do most of the racers who are chiming in seem to be
asking for the series to start later, and most of the promoters wanting
it to be run earlier? We've been hearing complaints about low turnout
for a few years now, and it looks like the market is trying to speak;
we'll race hard and show up for about 3 months. If those 3 months are
miserable, fewer of us will show up. If those 3 months are pleasant to
be on dirt trails, we'll show up in much greater numbers.
Craig
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org on behalf of Rick C Johnson
Sent: Tue 7/22/2008 8:24 AM
To: Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team
Cc: obra@list.obra.org; jpweathe@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Why weren't you at SkiBowl today to race?
The problem is that one could put races on the schedule later in the
season but that wouldn't change the fact that under the current schedule
people are tired. To cite a recent example it's the same reason why
political parties have very strict rules about the earliest a states
presidential primary can be held. If one secures the earliest possible
date they get all the attention. That sets the stage for everyone
clamoring to be right up there in the spotlight. Those coming later have
no chance to be significant.
Rick
Pistis Mountain Bike Racing Team wrote:
> The racers have nothing to loss. The promoter has everything to loss.
> I'm sure Peter lost money last weekend. If you aren't over the 100
> rider mark you are going to loss money. It's a bummer to put in 100
> hours on a race and have to cover part of the cost.
>
> Don't get me wrong. I would love to see the races more spread out. I
> would love if we had 1 race in March and April, 2 in May, June, July
> and August and one in Septemper to finnish things off. I would make 8
> out of the 11 races at least. The problem is what promoter is willing
> to take the chance and move your race to July, August or Sept. Maybe
> one of you should take on a race in one of those months and show us
> how it is done. I will be there to support you.
>
> Cliff McCann
> Pistis Ministries
> Pistis.us
> 541-659-4104
>
>
>
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:17:17 -0700
> From: jpweathe@yahoo.com
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Why weren't you at SkiBowl today to race?
>
>
> Agree with Rick and Craig 110% -- it's not fair to conclude everybody
> likes racing in cold mud based on this skibowl turnout.
> I think racers (and their families) are simply burned out by now and
> just want to ride.
>
> In my case I chose to race in the point series and then do the Cream
> Puff, which meant seven mtb races prior to the end of June.
>
> I did a mid-summer Skibowl race last year and, while the weather and
> trails were great, but my motivation was not -- after missing a few
> turns my race became a ride, along with a couple of other fellows.
> Not so bad, but I don't really need to pay an entry fee to go for a
ride!
>
> If the point series started later in the year I am almost certain
> there would be better turnout at all venues. Look to the Colorado
> series as an example of a strong mtb series that works this way.
>
> Why not give it a try for a year -- what do we have to lose?
>
> John W.
>
>
>
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