Slate Olson
this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXGC896Jdw
or this?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJomoEk81o4
On Aug 27, 2008, at 1:29 PM, Justin Serna wrote:
> Well, I did post my comment to the entire list and lets be clear I
> never called you stupid. I have a feeling if you knew who I was
> you might reconsider your wall flower comment. Beleive me I
> undrserstand your hostility all to well, and obviously I am not
> afraid to voice my opinion. As I said in my first post there is a
> time and a place for everything. I am also learning a lot as I
> become older and ANGER will get us no where!!! I really hope that
> you will think about this experience and try to understand that
> flipping someone off and then trying to explain yourself to someone
> generaly doesn't work out very well.
>
> Ciao`
>
>
> J. Serna
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lynne Cuevas
> To: Justin Serna
> Cc: randyradcliffe58@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:51:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] road rage on Helvetia rd
>
> Yes, it happened in the sticks. No, I wasn't alone with him when he
> came running out of the business yelling at me. No, I do not let
> these people intimidate me. I do not let people wrong me or anyone
> else and then not say anything because they might hit me or shoot
> me. Bullies don't run my life. Besides that, I didn't confront
> him, I just stopped in the road in front of the business that he was
> parked at. Was I supposed to ride home a different way to avoid
> him? Maybe you would be the next guy he harrassed and he just used
> his truck to unleash his hostility? You can go ahead and be a wall
> flower and not stop assholes like this but don't call me stupid
> because I won't take it!
> Why don't you post this to the whole list and see what other
> people think? I think that getting him off the road and keeping him
> from actually hurting someone else is what I am morally obligated to
> do.
> Feel free to share my response.
>
> Lynne
>
> --- On Wed, 8/27/08, Justin Serna wrote:
> From: Justin Serna
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] road rage on Helvetia rd
> To: "Lynne cuevas" , obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:24 PM
>
> OK, I know I am going to catch hell for this but come on!!! What
> part of this scenario made you think you should stop and reason with
> this guy?
>
> 1) Helvetia Rd. (Not exactly the most urban neighborhood)
>
> 2) Older Brown Chevy p.u. ( Not Exactly a Volvo with a bike rack on
> top)
>
> 3) Jackson Quarry Rd. (Just sounds like you are in the sticks)
>
> 4) Stopped in the road to see just who this jack ass was. (Really,
> just to see who he was)
>
> 5) He came running out of the business yelling at me. ( Review 1-4
> and then add man running out of TIRE SHOP screaming at you and you
> were going to reason with him???)
>
> I am not just trying to be a smart ass but seriously there is a time
> and a place for everything. I have found in my 39 years of
> experience that when ever we track someone down to explain our side
> it never really goes the way we intend. I completely understand how
> you must have felt as I am sure most of us here do. I will be
> perfectly honest, I have always been a bit of a hot head when it
> comes to less than courteous drivers but after reading the recently
> posted story here on the OBRA blog, about the gentleman that had a
> GUN pulled on him. I will think more than twice about who I explain
> anything to. I have been trying very hard to just go with the smile
> and wave retort.
>
> Please don't take this as a personal attack, I just want us all to
> get along!!!!!
>
>
> J. Serna
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: Lynne cuevas
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:03:27 AM
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] road rage on Helvetia rd
>
> I was on the newly chip sealed Helvetia rd yesterday riding along in
> the center of the lane trying to find the smooth spots in the road
> as there was no traffic at the time. All of the sudden there is an
> older brown Chevy p.u. whizzing by my left shoulder blaring his
> horn. My reaction was to fly the bird and keep going.
> He turned left at Jackson Quarry rd. as well as I did. I came
> upon his truck at McCann tire and stopped in the road to see just
> who this jack ass was. He came running out of the business yelling
> at me about how illegal I was and that I was going to end up in a
> ditch! I tried to explain to him that if he would have tooted his
> horn a couple of hundred feet behind me, I would have gladly moved
> over for him and that the chip seal was hard for me to ride. He
> heard none of it and yelled at me. Of course I told him he was
> wrong and I did have as much right to be there as he did.
> This infuriated the man. He ran towards me and was kicking gravel
> on me from less than 5' away and swung his arms wildly as he was
> calling me a bitch.
> At that time the guy from McCann's told him to stop. I tried to
> explain to the shop guy what had happened, he told me to leave. I
> was on the street...not on his property. I got the license number
> of the truck and left.
> The police said they were going to go talk to him but wouldn't
> give me a return call to say how it went.
> I later learned that the guy that harassed me was an employee of
> the tire shop. I was a customer of his a month ago. He changed
> over some tires for my friend. We are both cyclists and wanted to
> give the small business owner our business.
>
> He won't get my business anymore
>
> Lynne Cuevas
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