I've warmed up on my trainer or rollers in my garage and then gone out on the
road when it is raining or really cold. It really makes a difference for your
comfort level throughout the ride.
Layers: put them where they count! I go out these days with about 12
"layers" over my sternum, but with my system, those layers don't extend
anywhere I don't want them to (like the sides of my torso only have 3
layers...my maneuverability isn't compromised...
...most important thing I have learned about dressing
for rainy wet days is not to wear too much.
MicroZonal Layering? - You'll be less bulky, but yer muscles will look
big! ?
David
I have a pair of gortex shell mittens (no lining, just mittens of gortex) that are old and starting to fall apart, but they help a great deal, when worn over my gloves, when it's cold and/or raining. I'm not sure where you could find these now; I got mine at a cross country ski shop years ago, but they would be easy to make.
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For warm hands I use the specialized sub zero glove, never had a cold day yet. I wear one pair of wool socks and neoprene booties over my shoes. Always wear a skull cap (my favorite is craft) and a jacket. I always put warm water in one of my water bottles (I don't know if that is bad) but a warm drink 20 minutes into a ride feels really good, at least better than freezing water. Scott - another wet weather Roadie
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Thanks, Erik, for starting this thread, and attempting to make this
truly "chat!" This is a wonderful means of communication, useful for
sharing helpful tips.
Jes' red wun?a dem der emales frum the puter.
Wow. Whichever "side of the mountains" you happen to live on, each time
you ride (should be everyday!), you'll get feedback on what area of your
body was a bit cold. Try and make it better the next time out. Inside
the wonderful stretchy clothing we have these days (I've been around
since before Lycra), it's easy to pack pieces of wool and/or
poly-fleece. The chest, nape of neck, tailbone, crotch, knees are
obvious places to stuff it!
Don't use ANY cotton this time of year!
I think wool and some wicking
polypro liner is the answer. For the longer rides some kind of booty works
well.
Tip for feet: I gleaned a stack of new Oregonian Sunday (big) plastic
bags...I use these as a layer on my feet:
socks
shoes
wool and neoprene toe covers
Oregonian plastic bag, tucked into the sock top
goretex shoe cover.
Your milage will vary, but it works for me. I use SPD cleats/pedals,
and they cut right thru the plastic, no problem, and I don't ever pull
out. I only use the plastic when it's gonna be a wet day!
I use small patches of that creamy-looking insulative plastic on my
knees:
wool knee/quad warmers
a plastic patch on each knee (5"x8")
knickers.
The trick with the small areas of plastic use, is to keep it as far away
from your skin as possible.
Using the "MicroZonal Layering?", you can have lots of layers where you
need, but spare other areas of the increased bulk (I go out with about 6
layers over my knees, but would I want the 6 layers over the whole leg?
- No!...in fact, my shins/calves are bare).
I have designed a face mask that protects my cheek bones...a very
difficult place to keep warm, w/o covering also the nose and mouth
(which are completely open in my design). I can augment this with a
scarf to pull up over the mouth/nose. I don't go into banks dressed
like this...
Helmets need to have all the wonderful venting ...plugged. Keep that
airflow ...away!
God, it takes a while to dress this time of year!!
We all have our preferences, but for me, an hour or two on a fendered
fixed gear is the way to go when it's cold and wet! The "heater" is
always on: no coasting. You can say "I'm not gonna coast" on a gearS
bike, but it just ain't the same, sorry! On fixed, you actually "work"
your way DOWN the hills...
but a
warm drink 20 minutes into a ride feels really good,
I used to carry a little flask of flavored brandy on group
rides...passed around, a sip was very popular (adding to the usual and
essential water and food!).
David
For warm hands I use the specialized sub zero glove, never had a cold day
yet. I wear one pair of wool socks and neoprene booties over my shoes.
Always wear a skull cap (my favorite is craft) and a jacket. I always put
warm water in one of my water bottles (I don't know if that is bad) but a
warm drink 20 minutes into a ride feels really good, at least better than
freezing water.
Scott - another wet weather Roadie
Kissler's Cyclery
(Ended up with almost a cup of water inside one time before I figured this
out).
I think most of the times the goal is to keep the feet warm even if they are
wet. Being a messenger for six winters I gave up on the concept of dry feet
(although Seal Skins worked well until they started leaking --could not
stand nine hours of wear, five days a week). I think wool and some wicking
polypro liner is the answer. For the longer rides some kind of booty works
well. I started trying Smartwool socks and they are very comfy and warm
(they wash in the washing machine too).
Good topic!
Nikos Tzetos
Okay...
If your feet or hands are cold, put on a hat. Wearing an extra layer or
a
warmer layer on the head will keep your hands and feet a lot warmer.
As Melissa mentioned, keep plenty of room in your shoes. Don't strap
them on
too tightly, don't wear so many socks that you have to cram your foot in
the
shoe. Leave some room for air pockets 'cause they trap the heat. This
goes for
glove as well. Don't wear so many layers that your gloves are fitting
too
tight. Tight fit just restricts the flow of blood and eliminates air
pockets.
Drink Gatorade or something. Keep your body topped up on sugary fluids
so that
you're not getting cold just because your poor body is running out of
stuff to
burn.
Riders tend to not drink anywhere near enough this time of year. Try to
train
yourself to drink every 15 to 20 minutes. Dehydration, I would suspect,
could
also lead to cold extremities due to the thickening of the blood.
And finally, as Ronnie Vails says, most all problems can be solved by
simply
pushing harder on the pedals!
Stay warm!
Gil Ormerod
On the topic of hands and feet. I have had good success with a light
pair of socks, a pair of wool socks and then Gortex socks inside my
shoes. I use light weight booties over my shoes but their more to keep
the wind and mud off my shoes then for any water protection. The only
draw back to this system is that I have to wear waterproof rain pants
or the water just runs down my legs into the Gortex socks. (Ended up
with almost a cup of water inside one time before I figured this out).
For gloves I take lightly insulated long finger gloves, x-country ski
gloves and a pair of uninsulated lobster claw mitts (large enough to
fit over the x-country gloves) that I was able to talk my wife into
making for me out of a Gortex like fabric. I haven't found it cold
enough yet here to need the x-country ski gloves and the lobster mitts.
Lon
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One thing I notice that helps me stay warm in the winter is trying to
keep a
constant heart rate which is not always easy to do when your body is
just
burning calories to stay warm. However, that's still not keeping my
feet
warm either. I must have poor circulation or my shoes are too tight.
I have
tried Seal Skins and Performance Neoprene Booty Socks. I notice that
my feet
just sweat and the sweat turns ice cold unless it's above 50 degrees.
My
cycling shoes are a size bigger than normal so that shouldn't be the
problem. I'll have to try the wool sock theory. Over my cycling shoes
I
usually wear windstopper booties over another pair of Gator Neoprene
booties. Feet still freeeeeeezing! Wah Wah Wah.
Melissa
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One thing I notice that helps me stay warm in the winter is trying to keep a
constant heart rate which is not always easy to do when your body is just
burning calories to stay warm. However, that's still not keeping my feet
warm either. I must have poor circulation or my shoes are too tight. I have
tried Seal Skins and Performance Neoprene Booty Socks. I notice that my feet
just sweat and the sweat turns ice cold unless it's above 50 degrees. My
cycling shoes are a size bigger than normal so that shouldn't be the
problem. I'll have to try the wool sock theory. Over my cycling shoes I
usually wear windstopper booties over another pair of Gator Neoprene
booties. Feet still freeeeeeezing! Wah Wah Wah.
Melissa
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