Re: RE: Winter Training Tips

Friton, Mike

2002-01-18

EAT - FOOD Lots of it

Its amazing how much warmth an extra 15 - 20 lbs of fat insulation can

provide. I thought about loosing weight this winter but have now decided to

wait until warmer weather. The extra weight also provide great resistance

training. I might even put on a few more pounds



- Mike :)



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I have to say that the most important thing I have learned about dressing

for rainy wet days is not to wear too much. I used to wear all kinds of

clothes in the wrong places. jerseys upon jerseys covered up with a burley

jacket. shorts then tights then waterproof tights. I absolutly was dry and

warm .... for abour 20 minutes. then I started sweating and I began the

suffering. it took a lot of faith to leave the house wearing 2 jerseys and a

PI vest. I was surprised at how well my personal climate did after the

change. it is something I notice people who don't often ride in crap weather

or people just beginning to venture out in the crap weather tend to do,

overdress. sure it's chilly for the first 5 minutes but then it's all good

after that. the second most important thing, ensure water will run out of

your shoes.....



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I subscribe to the belief that your feet are cold, because your

legs are cold. I use thicker tights (heavy cotton, wool, or wind-proof

depending on conditions; don't use cotton in the rain) and seldom need

heavy booties. The problem is that tights other than the standard

lycra are difficult to find (especially in the long lengths I need at 6'4"),

or are expensive.



I don't thnk many want to hear about old-fashioned wool, but it

works in many conditions, reasonably warm when wet, but allows

cooling airflow if the day warms up. Downsides are care and

shrinking if washed frequently.



Les Lunas



1/18/2002 8:23:44 AM, Melissa Sanborn <msa-@hotmail.com> wrote:

 



One thing I notice that helps me stay warm in the winter is trying to keep

a

 constant heart rate which is not always easy to do when your body is just

burning calories to stay warm. However, that's still not keeping my feet

warm either. I must have poor circulation or my shoes are too tight. I have

tried Seal Skins and Performance Neoprene Booty Socks. I notice that my

feet

 just sweat and the sweat turns ice cold unless it's above 50 degrees. My

cycling shoes are a size bigger than normal so that shouldn't be the

problem. I'll have to try the wool sock theory. Over my cycling shoes I

usually wear windstopper booties over another pair of Gator Neoprene

booties. Feet still freeeeeeezing! Wah Wah Wah.



Melissa





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eric.k-@kingdesign.com

2002-01-18

I have to say that the most important thing I have learned about dressing

for rainy wet days is not to wear too much. I used to wear all kinds of

clothes in the wrong places. jerseys upon jerseys covered up with a burley

jacket. shorts then tights then waterproof tights. I absolutly was dry and

warm .... for abour 20 minutes. then I started sweating and I began the

suffering. it took a lot of faith to leave the house wearing 2 jerseys and a

PI vest. I was surprised at how well my personal climate did after the

change. it is something I notice people who don't often ride in crap weather

or people just beginning to venture out in the crap weather tend to do,

overdress. sure it's chilly for the first 5 minutes but then it's all good

after that. the second most important thing, ensure water will run out of

your shoes.....



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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:31 AM

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Subject: Re: RE: [OBRA Chat] Winter Training Tips



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I subscribe to the belief that your feet are cold, because your

legs are cold. I use thicker tights (heavy cotton, wool, or wind-proof

depending on conditions; don't use cotton in the rain) and seldom need

heavy booties. The problem is that tights other than the standard

lycra are difficult to find (especially in the long lengths I need at 6'4"),

or are expensive.



I don't thnk many want to hear about old-fashioned wool, but it

works in many conditions, reasonably warm when wet, but allows

cooling airflow if the day warms up. Downsides are care and

shrinking if washed frequently.



Les Lunas



1/18/2002 8:23:44 AM, Melissa Sanborn <msa-@hotmail.com> wrote:

 



One thing I notice that helps me stay warm in the winter is trying to keep

a

 constant heart rate which is not always easy to do when your body is just

burning calories to stay warm. However, that's still not keeping my feet

warm either. I must have poor circulation or my shoes are too tight. I have

tried Seal Skins and Performance Neoprene Booty Socks. I notice that my

feet

 just sweat and the sweat turns ice cold unless it's above 50 degrees. My

cycling shoes are a size bigger than normal so that shouldn't be the

problem. I'll have to try the wool sock theory. Over my cycling shoes I

usually wear windstopper booties over another pair of Gator Neoprene

booties. Feet still freeeeeeezing! Wah Wah Wah.



Melissa





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Scott Goldstein

2002-01-18

Actually, the best way to stay warm during those winter slog fests is

proper mental attitude.



How do you develop this Zen-like state of mind?



Personally, I recommend a rigorous pre-season condition program which

consists of:



1) Watching World Cycling Videos tape of Andre Tchmil winning the 1994

Paris Roubaix in atrocious conditions.

2) Watching World Cycling Videos tape of the 1993 World Championships in

atrocious conditions.

3) Watch your tape or (WCP) of stage 15 of the 1998 Tour de France.

Careful, here...just watch the Marco Pantani Parts NOT, repeat NOT the Jan

Ullrich parts. If you watch the Jan parts, all of your conditioning

efforts above will be wasted and you will be petrified of venturing

outdoors if the sun isn't shining.



After following this program outlined above, you will be ready to ride in

all conditions with a bare minimum of clothing.



Happy training



Scott



p.s. On second thought, I recommend that everyone in Oregon (Masters 35+

riders, in particular)completely avoid training altogether whenever its

raining or below 50 degrees. My extensive studies have shown that it makes

it very difficult for me to win when y'all are training in those conditions.



Leslie Lunas

2002-01-18

I subscribe to the belief that your feet are cold, because your

legs are cold. I use thicker tights (heavy cotton, wool, or wind-proof

depending on conditions; don't use cotton in the rain) and seldom need

heavy booties. The problem is that tights other than the standard

lycra are difficult to find (especially in the long lengths I need at 6'4"),

or are expensive.



I don't thnk many want to hear about old-fashioned wool, but it

works in many conditions, reasonably warm when wet, but allows

cooling airflow if the day warms up. Downsides are care and

shrinking if washed frequently.



Les Lunas



1/18/2002 8:23:44 AM, Melissa Sanborn <msa-@hotmail.com> wrote:

 



One thing I notice that helps me stay warm in the winter is trying to keep a

constant heart rate which is not always easy to do when your body is just

burning calories to stay warm. However, that's still not keeping my feet

warm either. I must have poor circulation or my shoes are too tight. I have

tried Seal Skins and Performance Neoprene Booty Socks. I notice that my feet

just sweat and the sweat turns ice cold unless it's above 50 degrees. My

cycling shoes are a size bigger than normal so that shouldn't be the

problem. I'll have to try the wool sock theory. Over my cycling shoes I

usually wear windstopper booties over another pair of Gator Neoprene

booties. Feet still freeeeeeezing! Wah Wah Wah.



Melissa





 ^..^<

Les Lunas

les-@callatg.com

541-485-6527 (h)

541-685-0669 (w)