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John Benenate

2002-02-01

On 1/30/02 4:01 AM, "ob-@topica.com" <ob-@topica.com> wrote:

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FS: 59cm Bridgestone RB1

By jak-@icsbestway.com

team for you

By eric.k-@kingdesign.com

Fwd: 58 cm Road bike for sale

By cmur-@obra.org

RE: team for you

By eri-@erikv.com

RAAM crew needed

By tfa-@earthlink.net

WTB: Fox rear shock

By BrianF-@aol.com

RE: team for you

By eri-@erikv.com

RE: team for you

By markjgi-@yahoo.com

Re: team for you

By j_for-@hotmail.com

Road Racing

By mtbd-@aol.com

Trek OCLV frame for trade/sale

By feldma-@yahoo.com

RE: Road Racing

By eri-@erikv.com

Re: Road Racing

By br-@politesociety.com

Re: Road Racing

By Dav-@Hevanet.Com

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:14:45 -0800

from: "Jake Vanderzanden" <jak-@icsbestway.com>

subject: FS: 59cm Bridgestone RB1

BRIDGESTONE RB1 (1994)

OS tubing, 59cm center-to-top

Classic road geometry

Red w/ white brand decals

Shimano 105 STI - 8spd

Time pedals

Ti rail seat and more

Would make good commuter or winter ride

Has not been ridden in 4 years

Price: $375 or any reasonable offer

*other 8spd wheelsets available for next to nothing

Jake VanderZanden

email anytime

503-653-4237 days

503-653-4237 cell

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:17:31 -0800

From: "Eric Kytola" <eric.k-@kingdesign.com>

Subject: team for you

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=18016

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:23:26 -0800

From: Candi Murray <cmur-@obra.org>

Subject: Fwd: 58 cm Road bike for sale

From: Jason.P-@HorizonAir.com

To: cmur-@obra.org

Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:25:56 -0700

Subject: 58 cm Road bike for sale

Organization: Alaska Airlines

X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 2.0 for FirstClass(R)

Hello Candi:

Could you please post this for me on the OBRA chat

Thanks Jason.

For Sale:

1998 58cm Specialized Allez Comp (Orange)

A1 aluminum tubing, Kinesis carbon fiber fork (threaded)

Kris King headset

Wheel set Mavic MA40 rims (Clincher) 105 8/9 spd hubs

Components: 105 8spd STI levers, FT and rear der., brakes,

Ultegra crank 175mm (Non-splined) 53/39

New cassette and chain fall 2001

3T handle bar (45) and quill stem (120)

Maintained by professional mechanic, no crashes

This would make an excellent starter road bike

$600.00 or BO

Call or Email

Jason Pfeifer

503 287-5028 home, or jason.p-@horizonair.com

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:13:38 -0800

From: "Erik Voldengen" <eri-@erikv.com>

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] team for you

Ohh, those girls are fast! I rode with some of them in

the "shoot out" in Tucson (until they dropped me). Ouch.

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:28:40 -0800

From: "Tracy Fawns" <tfa-@earthlink.net>

Subject: RAAM crew needed

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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Race Across America crew members

needed- June, 2002</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>All expenses paid, including lodging,

food, and airfare.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Must possess driver's

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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Particularly looking for a massage

therapist/physical therapist.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Dates: June 18, 2002 thru around June

26th.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Portland, OR to Pensacola,

Florida.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Please contact me if you're even

remotely interested.</FONT></DIV>

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at: <A

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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Thank you!!!</FONT></DIV>

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:24:45 EST

From: BrianF-@aol.com

Subject: WTB: Fox rear shock

I am looking for a "like new" 6.5 inch (1.5 inch travel) Fox Float RC or RL

for a 1999 Specialized FSR-XC. I figured I would try to find one that is

barely used before looking for a new one. It must have zero to low miles and

be in great condition. If you have one please email me with details.

thanks for looking

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:39:05 -0800

From: "Erik Voldengen" <eri-@erikv.com>

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] team for you

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It was 800.com, if I remember the jersey as it rode away from me...

-Erik

-----Original Message-----

From: George T Gardner [mailto:GEORGE_-@pgn.com]

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:32 PM

To: eri-@erikv.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] team for you

Just curious. What is the old name/sponsor of the team? I couldn't read

the lettering on the jerseys pictured.

   Erik Voldengen <eri-@erikv.com> 01/29/02 01:13PM >>>

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:55:25 -0800

From: "John Forbes" <j_for-@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] team for you

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And Nicole Gingles

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To: eri-@erikv.com ; ob-@topica.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:42 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] team for you

the team includes local talent Stacy Peters.

Mark Ginsberg

   Erik Voldengen <eri-@erikv.com> wrote:

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   It was 800.com, if I remember the jersey as it rode away from me...

   -Erik

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     From: George T Gardner [mailto:GEORGE_-@pgn.com]

     Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:32 PM

     To: eri-@erikv.com

     Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] team for you

     Just curious. What is the old name/sponsor of the team? I couldn't read

the lettering on the jerseys pictured.

   Erik Voldengen <eri-@erikv.com> 01/29/02 01:13PM >>>

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     Ohh, those girls are fast! I rode with some of them in

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And Nicole Gingles</FONT></DIV>

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href="mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com">markjgi-@yahoo.com</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=-@erikv.com

href="mailto:eri-@erikv.com">eri-@erikv.com</A> ; <A title-@topica.com

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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:42

PM</DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] team for

you</DIV>

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<P>the team includes local talent Stacy Peters.

<P>Mark Ginsberg

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   <DIV><SPAN class=785183500-30012002><FONT size=1>It was 800.com, if I

   remember the jersey as it rode away from me...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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   <DIV><SPAN class=785183500-30012002><FONT size=1>-Erik</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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     size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> George T Gardner

     [mailto:GEORGE_-@pgn.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 29, 2002

     4:32 PM<BR><B>To:</B> eri-@erikv.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat]

     team for you<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=1>Just curious. What is the

     old name/sponsor of the team? I couldn't read the lettering on

     the jerseys pictured.</FONT><BR><BR>>>> Erik Voldengen

     <eri-@erikv.com> 01/29/02 01:13PM



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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:59:08 EST

From: MTBD-@aol.com

Subject: Road Racing

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I'm thinking of doing my first ever road race (cat 5, old man class) and was

wondering if anyone could give me any helpful hints on road racing. I'm a

decent Mt biker, but this road thing is new to me.

Oh, and now that I road ride as well, do I have to wave at Mt bikers while

I'm on my road bike and wave at road riders while I'm on my Mt bike? Or am I

a "tweener" where I don't have to wave at all....Just wondering.

Ken

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LANG="0">I'm thinking of doing my first ever road race (cat 5, old man class)

and was wondering if anyone could give me any helpful hints on road racing.

I'm a decent Mt biker, but this road thing is new to me.<BR>

Oh, and now that I road ride as well, do I have to wave at Mt bikers while I'm

on my road bike and wave at road riders while I'm on my Mt bike? Or am I a

"tweener" where I don't have to wave at all....Just wondering. <BR>

<BR>

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:54:44 -0800

From: "feldman" <feldma-@yahoo.com>

Subject: Trek OCLV frame for trade/sale

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I have a customer who bought an USPS-1999 model Trek OCLV frame in 56cm size.

It's too small for him, he should have a 58. It includes a slightly used

matching fork. If anyone is interested in this, give me a call. He hasn't set

a price yet.

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a customer who bought an USPS-1999 model

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:56:10 -0800

From: "Erik Voldengen" <eri-@erikv.com>

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Road Racing

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My opinion may differ from some, but here's what I think.

The most important thing in a road race is to hold on to your bike,

hold a straight line, and watch watch is going on all around you.

If you're shoulder to shoulder in a Cat 5 race, hold on to the drops

of your handlebars, and bend your elbows - don't sit up with straight

arms and a sissy grip on the tops of the bars, or you will go down.

So my advice - save some skin, hold on, go straight, don't focus

on the wheel right in front of you.

-Erik

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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:59 PM

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Road Racing

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I'm thinking of doing my first ever road race (cat 5, old man class) and

was wondering if anyone could give me any helpful hints on road racing. I'm

a decent Mt biker, but this road thing is new to me.

Oh, and now that I road ride as well, do I have to wave at Mt bikers while

I'm on my road bike and wave at road riders while I'm on my Mt bike? Or am I

a "tweener" where I don't have to wave at all....Just wondering.

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<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My

opinion may differ from some, but here's what I think.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The

most important thing in a road race is to hold on to your

bike,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>hold

a

straight line, and watch watch is going on all around you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If

you're shoulder to shoulder in a Cat 5 race, hold on to the

drops</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>of

your handlebars, and bend your elbows - don't sit up with

straight</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>arms

and a sissy grip on the tops of the bars, or you will go

down.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So

my

advice - save some skin, hold on, go straight, don't focus</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>on

the

wheel right in front of you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=146205205-30012002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>-Erik</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

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wondering if anyone could give me any helpful hints on road racing. I'm a

decent Mt biker, but this road thing is new to me.<BR>Oh, and now that I road

ride as well, do I have to wave at Mt bikers while I'm on my road bike and

wave at road riders while I'm on my Mt bike? Or am I a "tweener" where I don't

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:21:50 -0800

From: "Dan H." <br-@politesociety.com>

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Road Racing

I use the finger lift where the hand never comes off the bar, but you

extend two or three fingers in the direction of the oncoming rider.

There are variations of this depending on how much you want to aknowledge

the other rider based on bike type, attire, and sex.

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of doing my first ever road race (cat 5, old man class) and was wondering

if anyone could give me any helpful hints on road racing. I'm a decent Mt

biker, but this road thing is new to me.

Oh, and now that I road ride as well, do I have to wave at Mt bikers while

I'm on my road bike and wave at road riders while I'm on my Mt bike? Or am

I a "tweener" where I don't have to wave at all....Just wondering.

Ken

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 22:41:41 -0800

From: DaViD AuKeR <DaV-@Hevanet.Com>

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Road Racing

Ken,

wondering if anyone could give

me any helpful hints on road racing.

Here's a few helpful(?) hints!

Know where the wind is coming from. Stay on a wheel. Be friendly to

everyone, but try and use them to keep you out of the wind whenever

possible. The larger the pack, the less you should be at the

front...let others do the work. Don't put little dolls on your rear

brake, 'cause it might distract someone. Test all your equipment days

ahead of time, and don't ride too hard/far the day before the race. Get

to the race early enough to roll around a little bit, but don't overdo

the warm-up. In my book, ten minutes is plenty...you want to work up a

little heat, but not much more...save that for the race. Avoid the

temptation of "showing everyone how fit you are" in the first ten

minutes of the race, but be ready to react if the pack goes fast! Do as

much as you can with the least amount of output, like try not to move up

too many times unsheltered, in the wind. Smile when you're really

hurting (everyone else will be hurting, too!). Say stuff like, "I love

my bike, I love hurting..." When you think music, think rock, not

ballad! The pack is a large, seething animal - keep alert, watch what

the mood is, what starts a chase, what the rhythm of fast/rest seems to

be.

Above all, HAVE FUN!

David

I'm thinking of doing my first ever road race (cat 5, old man class) and was

wondering if anyone could give

me any helpful hints on road racing. I'm a decent Mt biker, but this road

thing is new to me.

Oh, and now that I road ride as well, do I have to wave at Mt bikers while

I'm on my road bike and wave at

road riders while I'm on my Mt bike? Or am I a "tweener" where I don't have

to wave at all....Just wondering.

Ken

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