jmsmech-obra@yahoo.com

that wasn't humor.   the point is at the very least, if these damn team "whomevers" are giving these young men drugs, at least don't kill them / let them die.    Nothing funny about it. 

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Ron and Dorothy Strasser wrote:

From: Ron and Dorothy Strasser
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Subject: Re: It's not over...
To: jmsmech-obra@yahoo.com, obra@list.obra.org
Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 7:25 PM

I have stuck my foot in mouth before, but a response like this when someone
has lost a son, brother, sister or friend (I know you are a world and thousands
of miles away from this person and his family), I do not think is
appropriate.  This  is a serious incident.  I am not
attacking you, but hope next time you think before posting.  Is that what
you want posted with regard to your death?  Sorry OBRA, but I just had to
say something.  I do think (unless the original post person had some proof
of doping) the original post made some assumptions so I do understand why
statements were made.   But it is still a person that died, not
something to be made fun.  I enjoy humor, but some time for healing
first.  Just my heart felt feeling.
ron strasser

----- Original Message -----
From:
jmsmech-obra@yahoo.com
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:50
PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Subject: Re:
It's not over...

my opinion is that they should at least give the poor
suckers some decent alarm clocks (plural on purpose) so they can wake up
at 2 am and do some jumping jacks.   

--- On Fri,
2/6/09, Rick Johnson
wrote:

From:
Rick Johnson
Subject:
Re: [OBRA Chat] Subject: Re: It's not over...
To: "jamin aasum"

Cc: obra@list.obra.org
Date:
Friday, February 6, 2009, 1:32 PM

True, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But
ones credibility is directly tied to the accuracy of the facts
underlying their opinion. For instance, it is a medical fact the
sometimes young athletes die from congenital heart defects. Wouldn't
it be embarrassing if after all this outrage it turn out that this is
the case here?

Therefore I will withhold my own opinion on
this subject until more facts become available.

Rick

jamin aasum wrote:
Ken,

 
Last
time I checked everyone on the chat line was entitled to expressing
their opinion. "Facts" are highly subjective in the cycling world.
Judy's comments are strongly felt sentiments from a professional. If
we ever want the cycling world to change we need to stand up against
the hypocrisy.

 
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