Re: It's not over...

Luciano bailey

2009-02-07

I think the key point is win at all costs. This is by no means exclusive to cycling this is the culture in which we live. Go to any soccer game and the smell of over bearing parents living vicariously through there kids is the soil from which these things sprout. We too want to see only the fastest the elite of the sport rising to unknown heights and only in retrospect are left to wonder if the athletes performance was geniune. I still ponder every day about the speed of Hussain Bolt waiting for the press release that will erase that moment in sport from my memory, and turn it into another of the modern sport sagas. I don't know the answer, where do we begin at the soccer game or the gymnastic arena, and I am still unsure that the words you don't have to win Johnny just do your best will ever ring a truth.> From: mike.murray@obra.org> To: obra@list.obra.org> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:26:17 -0800> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] It's not over...> > I also have to point out EPO use was implicated in past sudden deaths of> cyclists but never, to my knowledge, proven. > > Mike Murray MD> > -----Original Message-----> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On> Behalf Of Jess Mace> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 15:30 PM> To: Judy.Richardson.DMS01@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG; obra@list.obra.org> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] It's not over...> > > Seems like you're jumping to conclusions...> Could have been a heart attack too...or any number of other causes. You're> also painting all professional cycling teams with a very broad brush.....> Just sayin'....> > > Jess Mace, MPH, CCRP> Clinical Outcomes Research - Oregon Sinus Center> Department of Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery> Oregon Health & Science University> 503.494.5886> > -----Original Message-----> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On> Behalf Of Judy.Richardson.DMS01@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:44 PM> To: obra@list.obra.org> Subject: [OBRA Chat] It's not over...> > If you haven't heard already, 21 year old Belgian cyclist Frederiek Nolf> died in > his sleep in the midst of the T of Qatar. Cause of death has not been > determined, however, the conditions echo eerily of deaths by EPO circa 2003.> > If proven dope is to blame for this untimely death, it will underscore a> duty > we have as cyclists and fans to not "assume" that the trend towards > transparency in testing has "fixed the problem". It's time again to act.> > American cycling team physicians have agreed to be accountable for the > safety and health of our riders. We're meeting in one week to discuss it> more. > But it's time again, now, for all of us to band together. We, the fans and > CONSUMERS, need to hold team management responsible, and the team > physician accountable. (He should be fired and stripped of any license he > holds, and black-balled from the profession. I don't care if he "didn't> know" > they guy was doping - Team docs know. They know when their guys sleep, > when they eat and when and how much they piss.) And if they don't they > should.> > We cheer and buy the stuff from the sponsors so they want to support these > teams. Patronizing these companies that tacitly condone doping by rewarding > riders who win at all costs, then blame them when their crimes become public> > is unconscionable. Refusing to hold management responsible reverts sport to > the days of angry mobs screaming for blood at the gladiatorial games. We > have a duty to boycott the products and services of companies who sponsor > teams who are not transparent with their testing practices, or management > that does not take responsibility for the care and conditions of their> riders. > Hit them where it hurts, or we will keep reading about riders like Fred.> > Judy Richardson, MD> Am. Assoc. Cycling Team Doctors> and Sorella Forte _______________________________________________> OBRA mailing list> obra@list.obra.org> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org> > > _______________________________________________> OBRA mailing list> obra@list.obra.org> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org> > _______________________________________________> OBRA mailing list> obra@list.obra.org> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
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