joe cipale
I learned a few years back that one way to win friends and influence
motorists is to communicate when it is safe for them to make a move
around you. Especially on blind corners or twisty descents/climbs. If I
am able to let a motorist know when it is safe to move around me, I am
often repaid with a smile and a wave. It saves my a$$, saves their
bacon, and we all can live for another day.
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 16:05 -0800, Don Whitehead wrote:
> what actually scares me the most on the two lane semi-rural roads that
> I'm on is that cars overcompensate by moving way into the opposing
> lane when passing, but without regard for oncoming traffic. I know
> that if push comes to shove the car is going to come back towards me
> if the opposing traffic doesn't give way to the passing car.
>
> Don
>
> 2009/2/23 Randy Dreiling
>
> True
> Plus as some one that lives in a rural area I get sick of the
> labels we get...I know it is big city cool or something to
> lump us all together as backwards ass rednecks but that is
> total BS.
>
> I ran into far more jack asses while riding in town.
>
> Take Care
>
> Randy Dreiling
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> From: "chood1@comcast.net"
> To: hrdtduck
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org; Jeff Edes
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:37:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Another near miss? Or mis-judgement?
>
> Have you ever counted, or taken thought, of all the drivers
> that pass you by without incident? Have you counted the ones
> that pass you while moving over into the other lane, or honk
> their horn nicely to let you know they are there? Have you
> ever counted all the cars/drivers that simply notice you and
> let you be? Have you counted the number of days without
> incident? I bet you would get tired of counting and lose track
> within the first 10 minutes of your early city commute.
>
> Thing is, you can go months, years without incident but it
> takes just one person to screw that all up. Don't give up
> hope because of a few knuckleheads out there. Remember that
> the number of decent people on the road far exceeds the number
> of troublemakers.
>
> I still have hope and I agree that one must be persistent in
> getting the offenders corrected through the proper channels.
>
> Good Luck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hrdtduck"
> To: "Steve' 'Long" , "Jeff Edes"
> , obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:28:03 PM GMT -08:00
> US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Another near miss? Or mis-judgement?
>
> Yea I get it and I'd hope to see some improvement over the
> last 25+
> years...but I have ridden in a lot of states and it is all the
> same...you
> take your life in your hands and trust to the decency of
> others when you
> ride the road....Not trying to be a downer, ...I had high hope
> for the last
> "gas crisis", that more people would get on a bike to save
> money, thus get
> to experience what we road regulars have to endure
> daily.....but it was
> pretty short lived, and desperate hope.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Long, Steve [mailto:Steve.Long@clark.wa.gov]
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:20 PM
> To: hrdtduck; Jeff Edes; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Another near miss? Or mis-judgement?
>
> Remind's me of a story I once heard of a young boy walking
> along the
> beach picking up star fish and tossing them back into the
> water. An old
> man happened by and said to the boy, young man, why are you
> tossing the
> star fish back into the water, it can't possibly make a
> different
> considering the magnitude of them that wash ashore? The young
> boy look
> down at the star fish in his hand and exclaimed, it makes a
> difference
> to this one.
>
> Moral of story, one-at-a-time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of hrdtduck
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:14 PM
> To: 'Jeff Edes'; obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Another near miss? Or mis-judgement?
>
> Short of shooting them in the head...how can we make them
> change...I've
> tried nearly everything else...polite discourse does not
> work....beating
> them up feels really good...but most are darn hard to
> catch...I am not
> sure there is anything that can be done...the main reason I
> started
> riding mountain bikes back in the early 80s
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Edes
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Another near miss? Or mis-judgement?
>
> These drivers need to realize that they have no right to
> deliberately
> endanger law abiding citizens. We are getting hurt and killed
> on our own
> roads, by people that have somehow convinced themselves that
> we have no
> right to be there. Prosecute this person to the full extent of
> the law.
> Keep us posted... if you have legal fees to deal with I will
> be the
> first to help out. Every cyclist on the road needs to take a
> stand
> against this behavior.
>
> Jeff Edes
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