joe cipale

According to the story on KGW (Friday or Saturday night), each bike
would have to be registered. Good luck trying to manage this fiasco.
I think I am going to get into the Initiative Business, ala Sizemore. My
first initiative will be a State Legislative Green Environment Bill: For
each piece of paper that is used on wordy, unwieldy, useless and failed
legislation, the Legislator is forced to pay $0.05/page (for each copy
printed) and plant a tree for each page that was printed (a one-time
planting, since you get multiple pages out of a single tree).

I bet that would stop a lot of these useless bills. It wouldn't? Damn...

On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 14:09 -0700, Mike Rosenfeld wrote:
> Craig cut Steve some slack please. I fully understand your point
> about credibility when writing letters but at this point any letter to
> the law makers is better than no letter. ....I got about two
> paragraphs into the text of the bill and my eyes started to cross,
> some people are just not going to be able to retain or even understand
> the bill.
>
> The plain and simple of this whole issue is it is a misguided attempt
> at extracting more money from the citizens of Oregon.
>
> I too pay property and state taxes, as well as register my car, pay
> gas taxes, and any other little surcharge the State feels it has a
> right to place on goods and services that are related to the care and
> feeding of our roads. I also own a business in Multnomah County and
> the City of Portland that takes another 2.8 to 3% out of my bottom
> line in taxes....as well as additional percentage points for Tri-Met.
>
> I have read the bill thru twice and cannot find anything about
> multiple bikes..it could be there but trying to track all the points
> and sub points as decribed in sub sections was giving me a
> migraine.....are we going to have to register each bike at $54 per
> bike every two years? There were line items about transferring and
> multiple licenses....but the license asks for the serial number of one
> bike.
>
> The only positive thing I could see from all of this is the serial
> numbers of each bike being registered with the state with the correct
> owner info...in the event of a stolen bike being recovered, much the
> way the vehicle id number of a car is registered.
>
>
>
>
> 2009/3/10 craig austin
> Steve, and everyone else who's helping our cause by writing
> letters, be sure to get the facts straight. I've seen many,
> many comments of "what about the kids, why should they have to
> pay this fee?" The bill as explained on bikeportland.org and
> other sites specifies that only riders over 18 would be
> subject to the registration.
>
> http://bikeportland.org/2009/03/06/mandatory-bike-registration-bill-introduced-in-salem/
>
> I'm not saying don't write letters, but your credibility is
> greatly enhanced when you get the facts right.
>
> Craig
>
> 2009/3/10 Long, Steve
>
> Comments that I sent to State Rep Schaufler.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________
> From: Long, Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:36 PM
> To: 'rep.mikeschaufler@state.or.us'
> Subject: HB 3008
>
>
>
> Mr. Schaufler,
> many of us in the cycling community are stunned that
> you would be a co-sponsor of this bill. We believe it
> is a misguided and bad piece of legislation. I read
> your comment about it being your goal to get everyone
> that shares the road to help bare the costs to
> maintain it.
> I ride a bike, I drive a car, I own a home and I pay
> the same taxes that you do. My bike has a negligible
> effect on any road surface that I ride on. Why on
> God's green Earth should I be double taxed to help pay
> for roads? Since I buy gas, have to pay to register my
> car and have to pay taxes on my home your bill would
> be double taxing me.
> Additionally, what about all the children that ride
> bicycles? Should those kids have to pay taxes too? How
> about their parents being double taxed? Should that
> happen?
> Also, bike lanes, those that we do have, are largely
> funded by Federal dollars. Bicycles are good for our
> economy. If you want bicycled to help pay for the
> negligible effects that they have on roads, put a tiny
> little exise tax on bicycle tires.
>
> Steve Long
> Milwaukie, OR
>
>
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