Mike Rosenfeld

Its all good Craig......Every time I hear "What about the children!" It
makes me think of the Simpsons.

Did anyone catch the section about the "Agent" who processes the paperwork
can keep 1/3rd of proceeds? Why do I feel some law makers in laws are about
to get new jobs?

SECTION 7. { + (1) The Department of Transportation may
appoint agents to receive bicycle registration applications and
to issue licenses.
(2) Agents shall issue licenses in accordance with procedures
prescribed by the department and shall charge and collect the
license and registration fees prescribed by law.
(3) The agent collecting the license and registration fee may
retain one-third of the license and registration fee and shall
remit two-thirds of the license and registration fee to the
department.
(4) The department shall supply the agents with bicycle
registration application forms and licenses. + }

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Long, Steve wrote:

> Well maybe someone smarter than I could draft something up for us that we
> can all just blast off to these idiots.
>
> Hey, at least I can pin my OBRA numbers on correctly. :)
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Mike Rosenfeld [mailto:rosenfeldma@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:09 PM
> *To:* craig austin
> *Cc:* Long, Steve; obra@list.obra.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] FW: HB 3008
>
> Craig cut Steve some slack please. I fully understand your point about
> credibility when writing letters but at this point any letter to the law
> makers is better than no letter. ....I got about two paragraphs into the
> text of the bill and my eyes started to cross, some people are just not
> going to be able to retain or even understand the bill.
>
> The plain and simple of this whole issue is it is a misguided attempt at
> extracting more money from the citizens of Oregon.
>
> I too pay property and state taxes, as well as register my car, pay gas
> taxes, and any other little surcharge the State feels it has a right to
> place on goods and services that are related to the care and feeding of our
> roads. I also own a business in Multnomah County and the City of Portland
> that takes another 2.8 to 3% out of my bottom line in taxes....as well as
> additional percentage points for Tri-Met.
>
> I have read the bill thru twice and cannot find anything about multiple
> bikes..it could be there but trying to track all the points and sub points
> as decribed in sub sections was giving me a migraine.....are we going to
> have to register each bike at $54 per bike every two years? There were line
> items about transferring and multiple licenses....but the license asks for
> the serial number of one bike.
>
> The only positive thing I could see from all of this is the serial numbers
> of each bike being registered with the state with the correct owner
> info...in the event of a stolen bike being recovered, much the way the
> vehicle id number of a car is registered.
>
>
>
>
> 2009/3/10 craig austin
>
>> Steve, and everyone else who's helping our cause by writing letters, be
>> sure to get the facts straight. I've seen many, many comments of "what about
>> the kids, why should they have to pay this fee?" The bill as explained on
>> bikeportland.org and other sites specifies that only riders over 18 would
>> be subject to the registration.
>>
>>
>> http://bikeportland.org/2009/03/06/mandatory-bike-registration-bill-introduced-in-salem/
>>
>> I'm not saying don't write letters, but your credibility is greatly
>> enhanced when you get the facts right.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> 2009/3/10 Long, Steve
>>
>>> Comments that I sent to State Rep Schaufler.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Long, Steve
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:36 PM
>>> *To:* 'rep.mikeschaufler@state.or.us'
>>> *Subject:* HB 3008
>>>
>>> Mr. Schaufler,
>>> many of us in the cycling community are stunned that you would be a
>>> co-sponsor of this bill. We believe it is a misguided and bad piece of
>>> legislation. I read your comment about it being your goal to get everyone
>>> that shares the road to help bare the costs to maintain it.
>>> I ride a bike, I drive a car, I own a home and I pay the same taxes that
>>> you do. My bike has a negligible effect on any road surface that I ride on.
>>> Why on God's green Earth should I be double taxed to help pay for roads?
>>> Since I buy gas, have to pay to register my car and have to pay taxes on my
>>> home your bill would be double taxing me.
>>> Additionally, what about all the children that ride bicycles? Should
>>> those kids have to pay taxes too? How about their parents being double
>>> taxed? Should that happen?
>>> Also, bike lanes, those that we do have, are largely funded by Federal
>>> dollars. Bicycles are good for our economy. If you want bicycled to help pay
>>> for the negligible effects that they have on roads, put a tiny little exise
>>> tax on bicycle tires.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Long
>>> Milwaukie, OR
>>>
>>>
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