Randy - WORD Sports
2009-03-10
The BTA press release that Susan sent out makes a strong argument, with
three excellent points. Using those three points as an outline
should make for some well written letters.
-Randy
At 01:21 PM 3/10/2009, Long, Steve wrote:
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Well maybe someone smarter than
I could draft something up for us that we can all just blast off to these
idiots.
Hey, at least I can pin my OBRA
numbers on correctly. :)
From: Mike Rosenfeld
[mailto:rosenfeldma@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:09 PM
To: craig austin
Cc: Long, Steve; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] FW: HB 3008
Craig cut Steve some slack please. I fully understand your point
about credibility when writing letters but at this point any letter to
the law makers is better than no letter. ....I got about two paragraphs
into the text of the bill and my eyes started to cross, some people are
just not going to be able to retain or even understand the bill.
The plain and simple of this whole issue is it is a misguided attempt at
extracting more money from the citizens of Oregon.
I too pay property and state taxes, as well as register my car, pay gas
taxes, and any other little surcharge the State feels it has a right to
place on goods and services that are related to the care and feeding of
our roads. I also own a business in Multnomah County and the City
of Portland that takes another 2.8 to 3% out of my bottom line in
taxes....as well as additional percentage points for Tri-Met.
I have read the bill thru twice and cannot find anything about multiple
bikes..it could be there but trying to track all the points and sub
points as decribed in sub sections was giving me a migraine.....are we
going to have to register each bike at $54 per bike every two
years? There were line items about transferring and multiple
licenses....but the license asks for the serial number of one
bike.
The only positive thing I could see from all of this is the serial
numbers of each bike being registered with the state with the correct
owner info...in the event of a stolen bike being recovered, much the way
the vehicle id number of a car is registered.
2009/3/10 craig austin
<useyourdagger@gmail.com>
- Steve, and everyone else who's helping our cause by writing letters,
be sure to get the facts straight. I've seen many, many comments of
"what about the kids, why should they have to pay this
fee?" The bill as explained on
bikeportland.org and other sites
specifies that only riders over 18 would be subject to the registration.
http://bikeportland.org/2009/03/06/mandatory-bike-registration-bill-introduced-in-salem/
- I'm not saying don't write letters, but your credibility is greatly
enhanced when you get the facts right.
- Craig
- 2009/3/10 Long, Steve
<Steve.Long@clark.wa.gov>
- Comments that I sent to
State Rep Schaufler.
- From: Long, Steve
- Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:36 PM
- To:
'rep.mikeschaufler@state.or.us'
- Subject: HB 3008
- Mr. Schaufler,
- many of us in the cycling community are stunned that you would be a co-sponsor of this bill. We believe it is a misguided and bad piece of legislation. I read your comment about it being your goal to get everyone that shares the road to help bare the costs to maintain it.
- I ride a bike, I drive a car, I own a home and I pay the same taxes that you do. My bike has a negligible effect on any road surface that I ride on. Why on God's green Earth should I be double taxed to help pay for roads? Since I buy gas, have to pay to register my car and have to pay taxes on my home your bill would be double taxing me.
- Additionally, what about all the children that ride bicycles? Should those kids have to pay taxes too? How about their parents being double taxed? Should that happen?
- Also, bike lanes, those that we do have, are largely funded by Federal dollars. Bicycles are good for our economy. If you want bicycled to help pay for the negligible effects that they have on roads, put a tiny little exise tax on bicycle tires.
- Steve Long
- Milwaukie, OR
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