David Hart
so who's going to win? the bus or the cyclist? Even if the vehicle is in the
wrong, you need to prevent an accident if at all possible, you are talking
about your life.
David
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:09 AM, wrote:
> I have to agree with Chris here.
> To me, it sounds like he was riding with the flow of traffic and
> unfortunately approached the merging of roads at the same time as the bus.
> His only crime, really, is not wearing bright enough clothing. The bus
> should have yielded at that point...if he saw the rider.
>
> You are suggesting that just because there is a bike path that the rider is
> obligated to take it. Sometimes the road is easier, safer than the bike
> path. I say he did nothing wrong. Perhaps he sprinted to save his life
> because the bus driver was in the wrong for not yielding.
>
> my two cents.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Alling"
> To: "Obra"
> Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:54:05 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] What was he thinking.
>
> >From your description it sounds as if the bus should have yielded the
> right of way to the cyclist and he should be lambasted for not applying the
> brakes and yielding. It sounds like the bike was traveling legally with the
> flow af traffic.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: JRaedeke@roguecc.edu
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:07:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] What was he thinking.
>
> Amen !!! Lets all try to *not* give motorists any reasons to dislike
> cyclist on the roadways. Lets make positive progress.
>
> john
>
>
>
> *From:* obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Rosenfeld
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:38 AM
> *To:* OBRA
> *Subject:* [OBRA Chat] What was he thinking.
>
>
>
> I am not one to publicly lambaste another cyclist but I witnessed such a
> huge display stupidity this morning I have to take the time to vent.
>
> The incident took place where Capitol Highway merges onto Barbur Blvd. I
> have attached a picture of the area to refresh memories.
>
> There is a bike path for those heading towards downtown to go around the
> overpass and then merge back onto Barbur Blvd safely.
>
> It was about 7:45am, pouring down rain, and very low visibility.
>
> I was driving (yes I know...you can pick on me for driving) towards
> downtown and was passing under the overpass. I see a cyclist with minimal
> lighting and dark cycling gear, The rain jacket was Red, bluish helmet. I
> would have to gauge this cyclist as a racer due to the type of bike, smooth
> spin, and speed at which he was traveling, also the gear was indicative of
> someone who knows how to ride in the rain....speed would be maybe 25 to 30
> mph. They decide to bypass the bike path round-about and go under the over
> pass.
>
> As I close the distance and pass under the overpass I see a Trimet bus
> coming down the ramp getting ready to merge onto Barbur from Capitol.
>
> The cyclist stands up and starts to sprint.
>
> The Bus increases speed.
>
> I slow down in case the cyclist needs to veer into my lane....Every muscle
> in my body tenses and I mutter a curse under my breath through clenched jaws
> as the cyclist cuts across in front of the bus. And this is no
> joke.....there was only 5 feet of clearance between the rear wheel of the
> cyclist and the bus...it was even less by the time the cyclist clears the
> bumper of the bus and is safely across the lane.
>
> The brake lights on the bus never even flickered.
>
> I really thought I was going to watch this guy die....not just hurt but
> actually dead. The bus was doing at least mid 30's and would have smeared
> the cyclist for at least 100+ feet before stopping.
>
> This is the sort of thing that gives people legitimate complaints against
> cyclists.
>
> I know the argument that some experienced cyclists have with regards to
> being in control of their environment and know the limitations of their
> handling skills and speeds....but for goodness sake this was just down right
> STUPID!!
>
> I hope the cyclist is in fact a racer, a member of OBRA, and is reading
> this. My message to you is this:
>
> Your actions impact more than just you. If you had been wrong in your
> abilities to clear the buses bumper, I and at least 30+ other people would
> have watch you die. *Horribly.* Think of how the driver of the bus
> would have felt knowing he or she had taken your life. For what?? 30 extra
> seconds? Not wanting to deal a little bit of gravel? Think about this
> before you do something like this again. Your actions.....your
> decisions....have consequences to yourself and others.
>
> I am a cyclist. I have been riding both competitively and for leisure on
> and off for 25 years. I state this to lend credence to my assessment of the
> situation.
>
>
> Mike Rosenfeld
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