Re: Tyler Hamilton

ewascent@gmail.com

2009-04-17

The trickle down theory is a discredited economic model, and does not apply
to the accretion of normative tolerance for previously deviant behaviors or
views. I guess I can look past that to see what you are try to communicate.

On Apr 17, 2009 12:18pm, Justin Serna wrote:

> Natural selection and survival of the fittest work great in he wild. If
> we did not create rules to keep drugs out of sports we would have a lot
> of dead or seriously injured young athletes who would do whatever it
> takes to make it to the big leagues. Even with the anti-doping rules that
> are in place we constantly here of high scool aged athletes in trouble
> due to roid rage.

> IMO your statement . "If consenting adults want to use dangerous medical
> procedures to abnormally improve their abilities why is that an issue?"is
> narrow minded and irresponsible. It is an issue because of the trickle
> down theory. I hope you do not need that theory to be explained to you. I
> understand that the athletes in questiuon are adults but you must look at
> the bigger picture.

> Best Regards,

> Justin J. Serna

> 206.491.3730

> From: "ewascent@gmail.com" ewascent@gmail.com>
> To: Justin Serna justinsf2001@yahoo.com>; Chris Streight
> streighty@gmail.com>; obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Friday, Aprto il 17, 2009 11:40:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tyler Hamilton

> If consenting adults want to use dangerous medical procedures to
> abnormally improve their abilities why is that an issue? A small but
> highly visible minority of top riders have been busted for trying to use
> banned medical procedures to outperform their natural bodies. So what?
> Random testing and applying sanctions seems like a waste of talent and
> money to me. I always assume every top pro is doing something just this
> side of "illegal" in their training and recovery. To me that is as
> tedious as
> prohibiting how powerful a stock car engine can be, to prevent drivers
> from out performing their skills.

> On Apr 17, 2009 11:27am, Justin Serna justinsf2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > This story is sad in so many ways!!! When I initially viewed this story
> I was disappointed and angered that yet another elite athlete had
> succumbed to the so called pressure to win and so made the excuse to use
> performance enhancing DRUGS. After reading the entire post, my anger
> subsided and my disappointment and sadness for Mr. Hamilton's decisions
> both past and present made me realize the he is just a human being. I do
> not condone Mr. Hamilton's actions, however it is clear the Tyler has
> much more difficult issues to deal with than being a professional
> cyclist. I hope he will get the assistance he needs and be able to move
> on to a more positive place.
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> > Hopefully this issue will not further the tarnished view of
> professional cycling and most will realize that this is an isolated
> incident carried out by man the has been diagnosed with severe depression.
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> > Just my 2 cents..............
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> > Justin J. Serna
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> > From: Chris Streight streighty@gmail.com>
> > To: obra@list.obra.org
> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:07:55 AM
> > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tyler Hamilton
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> > Sad ending to Tyler Hamilton's career
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> > http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/apr09/apr17news3
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