Re: Tyler Hamilton

Justin Serna

2009-04-17

Aside from your Wikipedia definition of the trickle down theory, at least you understand what a comparison is............
 
Justin J. Serna

206.491.3730

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To: Justin Serna ; ewascent@gmail.com; Chris Streight ; obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:43:56 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tyler Hamilton

The trickle down theory is a discredited economic model, and does not apply to the accretion of normative tolerance for previously deviant behaviors or views. I guess I can look past that to see what you are try to communicate.

On Apr 17, 2009 12:18pm, Justin Serna wrote:
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> IMO your statement . "If consenting adults want to use dangerous medical procedures to abnormally improve their abilities why is that an issue?"is narrow minded and irresponsible.  It is an issue because of the trickle down theory.  I hope you do not need that theory to be explained to you.  I understand that the athletes in questiuon are adults but you must look at the bigger picture.
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> If consenting adults want to use dangerous medical procedures to abnormally improve their abilities why is that an issue? A small but highly visible minority of top riders have been busted for trying to use banned medical procedures to outperform their natural bodies. So what? Random testing and applying sanctions seems like a waste of talent and money to me. I always assume every top pro is doing something just this side of "illegal" in their training and recovery. To me that is as tedious as
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> On Apr 17, 2009 11:27am, Justin Serna justinsf2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > This story is sad in so many ways!!!  When I initially viewed this story I was disappointed and angered that yet another elite athlete had succumbed to the so called pressure to win and so made the excuse to use performance enhancing DRUGS.  After reading the entire post, my anger subsided and my disappointment and sadness for Mr. Hamilton's decisions both past and present made me realize the he is just a human being.  I do not condone Mr. Hamilton's actions, however it is clear the Tyler has much more difficult issues to deal with than being a professional cyclist.  I hope he will get the assistance he needs and be able to move on to a more positive place.
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> > Hopefully this issue will not further the tarnished view of professional cycling and most will realize that this is an isolated incident carried out by man the has been diagnosed with severe depression.
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> > Sad ending to Tyler Hamilton's career
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