Mike Murray
Under WADA rules I don't believe it would be possible to get an Therapeutic
Use Exemption for an anabolic, even for a weak one like DHEA.
Mike Murray
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From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of craig austin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 13:48 PM
To: Brady Brady
Cc: obra@list.obra.org; Chris Streight
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tyler Hamilton
It's also an issue because it's against the rules. To quote Walter Sobchack,
"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a
sh!t about the rules?"
They're pretty simple in racing. Don't cut the course. Don't get on a train
and ride part of a stage. Don't cross the tracks when the lights are
flashing. And don't take drugs that are on the banned list.
And I would've thought it was obvious, but if you feel you must take drugs
that are on the banned list, but aren't doing it as a performance
enhancement, then get a medical release and own up to it BEFORE you're
caught and your team is embroiled in yet another humiliating public
spectacle. You think it was hard to get corporate sponsorship for cycling
YESTERDAY? Try today. People will lose their jobs, careers, and livelihoods
because of Tyler's inability to think of anyone but himself.
Craig
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Brady Brady wrote:
"If consenting adults want to use dangerous medical procedures to abnormally
improve their abilities why is that an issue?"
It is an issue because-whether they like it or not-there are kids who
idolize these consenting adults.
It is an issue because for every uber-doper, there is someone in the peloton
who has been suffering for years as a domestique, paying their dues and
playing it straight, just to have their one career SHOT at cracking a top-20
finish.
It is an issue because it attempts to discredit the notion that giving one's
best is its own reward, and that usually, no matter how hard one tries,
there is someone better. and one has to deal with that.
On another note, It doesn't look like Tyler's current problem had anything
to do with all of this. Hopefully he will be able to get the help he needs.
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of ewascent@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:40 AM
To: Justin Serna; Chris Streight; obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tyler Hamilton
If consenting adults want to use dangerous medical procedures to abnormally
improve their abilities why is that an issue? A small but highly visible
minority of top riders have been busted for trying to use banned medical
procedures to outperform their natural bodies. So what? Random testing and
applying sanctions seems like a waste of talent and money to me. I always
assume every top pro is doing something just this side of "illegal" in their
training and recovery. To me that is as tedious as prohibiting how powerful
a stock car engine can be, to prevent drivers from out performing their
skills.
On Apr 17, 2009 11:27am, Justin Serna wrote:
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was disappointed and angered that yet another elite athlete had succumbed to
the so called pressure to win and so made the excuse to use performance
enhancing DRUGS. After reading the entire post, my anger subsided and my
disappointment and sadness for Mr. Hamilton's decisions both past and
present made me realize the he is just a human being. I do not condone Mr.
Hamilton's actions, however it is clear the Tyler has much more difficult
issues to deal with than being a professional cyclist. I hope he will get
the assistance he needs and be able to move on to a more positive place.
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cycling and most will realize that this is an isolated incident carried out
by man the has been diagnosed with severe depression.
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> To: obra@list.obra.org
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> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tyler Hamilton
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> Sad ending to Tyler Hamilton's career
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> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/apr09/apr17news3
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