Ben Fischler
I agree with the fair warning bit. If conditions are lousy an email to all
registered riders is what should happen.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Jason Shucker wrote:
> Don, with all due respect, you're a douche. Actually I take back the
> respect part, you're just a douche!
>
> What about 10-12 year kids who raced Don? I guess they should 'grow up'
> and just ignore the cold and learn to ride in the snow? Because everyone in
> the state gets a chance to ride in snow Nov-March. (sarcasm!) There are
> some parents who drove 6+ hours round trip just because their kids wanted to
> race, because they love Mt Biking. However, to have a course that is half
> covered in snow and to have them "ride" in those elements without notice is
> ridiculous and irresponsible of the race promoter! Coming prepared for the
> weather is one thing (rain, cold, sun, heat, etc) and should be left up to
> the racer. However not to take the 15 seconds to send out a quick e-mail to
> say 'hey, we worked our asses off, but the course is still covered in 50% of
> snow, come prepared and be prepared to walk" Would have solved all these
> issues. I can guarantee why the promoter didn't do that though, $$$$$. You
> put out an e-mail that your course sucks, no one is going to come. Instead
> quite a few people wasted a day they could have stayed at home, and actually
> RODE their bikes and saved the money they spent on gas, food, race entry
> fee, etc just so they could push their bikes in the snow. Do you have kids,
> Don? Imagine if it were your 10yr old out there struggling in those
> conditions with ice on his shoes, shivering away because a careless promoter
> failed to send out a quick e-mail to say, 'hey you'll be walking alot in the
> snow". My guess is you'd have a MUCH different opinion.
>
> You're right, schedules are prepared months in advance. And we don't have
> control over how much snow we get, or how fast it melts. What do we have
> control over? Notifying people of the facts. The promoter failed to do so,
> and wasted the Sunday of quite a few people.
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> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: "Don Leet"
> Cc: obra@list.obra.org
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:06:29 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] up front
>
> It is time for you whiney mountain bikers to either grow up or become
> roadies. That was a great race. If you can't ride in the snow maybe
> you should learn. Mountain biking is an outdoor sport. I live in Bend
> and ride 12 months a year. I was out this winter in 15 degrees, and 8
> inches of snow. What an adventure that was. Yesterday was like a walk
> in the park. I have many friends who mountain bike in Great Britain.
> Yesterday would have been the best conditions they would have had all
> year. I have been racing mountain bikes for over 25 years and I am
> constantly amazed at what people expect. Schedules are drawn up months
> in advance, we don't have much say in how fast snow melts or how much
> it snows. Go out and have fun, revel in the unexpected, be challenged
> by the conditions.
> Don Leet
>
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