Brian Mitchell
Hmm, kind of like a "blacklist of un-OBRA-ites"of sorts?!
Sen. McCarthy would be so proud. . .
On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:32 PM, "Brian Engelen"
wrote:
> I think that anyone who is likely to sue should be 86ed from our ev
> ents. And some of those people have shown themselves here. It is j
> ust poor business to let them continue to put our events at risk.
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> We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone
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> Brian E
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> From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org]
> On Behalf Of Ben Fischler
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:15 AM
> To: halfwheelhill@yahoo.com
> Cc: OBRA list list; Brian Johnson
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Taking BST to court can't be good for OR
> racing
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> MTB racing and riding is an adventure sport. Part of the sport is
> being ready for anything, including snow. I've raced in conditions
> that were "too hot" and "too cold" for comfort, and some of those
> races were in my early teens. If all those races had been cancelled
> due to tender legal feelings then I would have missed some of the
> best rides and best experiences of my life.
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> Sueing your way out of a lousy race experience does nothing for
> anyone.
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> * mobile *
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> - ben.fischler@gmail.com -
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> - bfischler@laika.com -
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> On Apr 28, 2009, at 8:46 AM, scott hill
> wrote:
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>> this is the same crap that killed bike racing in texas for several
>> years. if you don't like tough conditions then don't mountain bike,
>> or wait till summer. nobody made you race, you drove there on your
>> own and could probably see the snow when you got out of your car. i
>> have done some mtb races that you had to run 90% of the course
>> because of mud, but you know what RACERS RACE their bike and have
>> fun doing it. if you don't like it take up golf.
>>
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>>
>> scott
>>
>> --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Brian Johnson wrote:
>>
>> From: Brian Johnson
>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Taking BST to court can't be good for OR racing
>> To: obra@list.obra.org
>> Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:33 PM
>>
>> Message: 3
>>
>> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:23:58 +0000
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>> From: Evan Plews
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>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] up front--BS!
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>> I must weigh in... this was supreme rip-off.
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>> A "supreme rip off"? The tone of your message is so extreme it's
>> baffling!
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>>> The bigger picture is the loss for Oregon racing. Why?
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>> ***SNIP***
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>> If SkiBowl will not issue refunds, I would like some of our
>> attorney friends to weight in with the possibility of pursuing a
>> collective claim through small claims court. I personally will pay
>> any court costs to see justice served. Until promoters (even me)
>> are held accountable, we ALL will suffer and lose members and events!
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>> I think that hostile attitudes and whispers of litigation pose more
>> of a threat to Oregon racing than early season races with snow on
>> the ground. I imagine that the threat of litigation (or the mere
>> involvement of "attorney friends") is extremely off-putting and
>> pose yet another unpleasant hurdle to staging a race event.
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>>> Best Regards,
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>>> Evan Plews
>>>
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>> To be fair, I'll have to say that I wish the MTB racing season
>> started in May (with maybe a couple of mucky races in March or
>> April for the masochists among us). I also think that the
>> organizers of Bear Springs trap could have done a bit more to
>> communicate the conditions up there. That said, I took it upon
>> myself to check weather reports for the area and then made the
>> decision to attend the race for myself. I went expecting snow and
>> took my cold/wet weather gear. I was expecting 2.5 hours of
>> cyclocross.
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>>
>> Brian J.
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>> * * *
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>> My father asks : "Do you live here or ride bikes?"
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>> http://liveorridebikes.blogspot.com
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