john

Yeah Rick hit the nail on the head...
We should be planning at least 2 or 3 high speed rail lines, one north,
middle and south across the nation. And stop throwing our money
into "free"-ways. Not super high speed rail because that takes an
exponential extra amount of money and engineering... , but just sensibly
fast like ~120 mph, with maybe some sort of smart embarkation/debarkation
where the train never stops... .
In another 5-10-20 years when fuel prices are over $10 a gallon it may be
too late to afford any sort of infrastructure investments...

If you want to scare yourself silly, read "the long emergency" ..

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Joe Cipale wrote:

> Personally, if I can take the train, I will take the train. It may be
> slower, but it much more relaxing.
>
> Joe
>
> Rick C Johnson wrote:
>
> > You all are just debating the symptoms of a diseased patient. The
> > fundamental problem is that in America we basically have two choices
> > when it comes to long distance transportation - drive your car or fly.
> > Both require costly and inefficient infrastructure, both also require
> > copious amounts of fuel. The US airline industry couldn't exist at all
> > if it were not for government provided airports and air traffic control.
> > The industry is being squeezed by economic factors and is in turn
> > squeezing it's customers.
> > Write all the emails you want - it's not going to change things one iota.
> >
> > Rick Johnson
> > Bend, Oregon
> >
> > "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it" - George
> Santayana
> >
> >
> >
> > Joe Cipale wrote:
> >
> > >Throwing my two cents in -
> > >I used to travel for work for 2-3 weeks at a time. I would always bring
> my bike in a Trico Ironman case. The best airlines to fly (late 90's-early
> 00's) were Alaska and Delta. The worst, and I mean WORST was United! Alaska
> would often waive the fee as the bike/case/helmet/shoes/cloor pump/other
> bomb materials would weigh less than 40 lbs. Delta would give me a surcharge
> of $25.00 becuase it was an odd shape.
> > >
> > >United was just a bunch of effing pr****! They would charge an oversize
> fee, a handling fee, and a bulk fee (WTH is a 'bulk fee'?). Needless to say
> I tried to avoid United as much as possible.
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >Thomas W. Judson wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>I just found a really useful website,
> > >>
> > >>http://www.ibike.org/encouragement/travel/bagregs.htm
> > >>
> > >>By the way, it is really easy to email the airlines by going to their
> websites. And they do respond, especially if you are a frequent flyer with
> elite status. If enough people complain, they might even drop their fees.
> > >>
> > >>Tom
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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