Brady Brady
It’s the Rapha ads. One can’t be a true uuuuuber Euro-cool poseur unless one is helmetless, preferably on a slick, foggy mountain descent.
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Robert Anderson
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:47 AM
To: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ask A Roadie
If you are not wearing a helmet while riding, then you obviously have nothing to protect. And if you are riding without a helmet in front of children, you set a bad example. So even if you have no brain, you should still wear a helmet. -Rob Anderson
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Maximillian Kirchoff > wrote:
IT's funny you should mention kits Ron as most commute-racers I run across are actually kitted out. I don't really wear kits on my ride or when I commute. I wear bibs sometimes without anything over them, and many times with jeans over them, so it's difficult to identify me as anything more than a regular commuter. The fun part about that is the tri guys or cat 4s who seem to think that since I'm a large dude and not kitted out they must pass me, which is often-times rather funny. Especially when they attack me uphill, then quickly run out of gas and start huffing and puffing in car lane to my left as I steadily keep my cadence. I don't hold any ill-will towards them, I think it's more funny than anything. I'm just trying to get home most of the time, not win the tour. Which, on a small tagent I wanted to mention a funny trend I've began to see. I'm not sure if it's new racers who don't understand helmets, old racers who just don't like them, or people that are just forgetful...but wearing a full winter kit, winter cap, gloves, shoe covers, clipped into your pedal is pretty damn funny when you're not wearing a helmet. Spending all that time and money to train in the winter on the road, without the one thing that can actually save your life in a tough spot. Hell I've ridden without helmets...in jeans and a tshirt, on my way to the store. But a training ride fully kitted out....hiiiiilarious. Especially since a helmet is probably the least dorky looking thing in a kit.
But I digress. We're all just peoples. I often, in my jeans and windbreaker, wave to roadies and commuters alike just to get a snarl or grimace. But it doesn't bother me, I'm just trying to be nice. Just be the bigger person and spit into the draft. haha.
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Ron and Dorothy Strasser > wrote:
From my perspective that is a good time to give the "commuter" trying staying on your wheel some positive comments, then point them toward PIR. This happens all the time (especially if you are wearing a kit)... regular riders who do not see themselves as racers.... go through an instant transformation.... and become Lance. Usually they fade after a few blocks at most, but some are pretty strong. It is human nature. Giving them some positive feedback is good for society and might even get a new obra member. I wave to most other riders if I am not sucking air big time or it is unsafe. I think it is a very good thing to wave or say hi to other riders especially if wearing a kit. It is that type of behavior that removes barriers instead of producing perceived or real ones. All this said, I do not feel bad is someone does not wave or say hi to me. The great thing about cycling is it can be a social or private activity.
go ride.
ron
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From: Dan Silvernail
To: obra@list.obra.org
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ask A Roadie
I'm glad that the record has been set straight. Up until today I would just get completely bummed out when someone didn't return my little chin raise whenever I'd pass them. Sorry to anyone that I yelled "Unsociable pr**ck" to. (I kid!) (I'm just as guilty as the next guy of not extending a full-on warm embrace to anyone on a bike that I encounter. I wave and not and that's good enough)
Hell, while I have the floor, here is something that eats at me and I want to know why people do this: why, oh why, do people just have to speed up and "get on my wheel" whenever I pass them? It doesn't matter if I'm commuting through downtown or on a training ride up on Skyline. Whenever I approach someone while out riding, I'm at the point where I feel the need to "attack" them instead of rolling past because if I just roll past (saying HI to them as I pass), 8 out of 10 people on bikes will stick right to my rear wheel. Why? I don't have this problem when I'm out walking or running. I mean, if you were walking your dog and passed a slower walker and they picked up the pace and started walking step for step 6" back of you, what would you think? I'd turn the dog loose on them! That's what I'd do! (well, not really, my dog is a chicken ass who'd just beg for a cookie). Anyway. Next time someone wants to draft off of me, I'll tell them to take out an OBRA licence and go up to PIR and race. There, it's OK to ride someone's ass.
Rant over. Let the weekend begin!
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Erik Long > wrote:
Yeah, dude. Some people just aren't social animals. Often when a rider goes riding alone, he does so specifically to ride alone - in fact, that's almost always the case. There are other factors - the guy could be riding on a very limited schedule, possibly in the middle of a structured workout, who knows.
If you're on a group ride, you can expect more of a social event. There's no reason to take offense just because a lone rider didn't smile and wave from the other side of the road. This is a silly reason to get bent out of shape.
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:10:25 -0800
From: tackyglueit@gmail.com
To: sbrown@stevebrowncompany.com
CC: obra@list.obra.org
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Ask A Roadie
you're a clown. maybe the guys dog just died. the world is bigger then you.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Steve Brown > wrote:
Dear Ask A Roadie,
I seem to need some help regarding the secret handshake. Even though I am fairly sociable when I riding, every once in a while someone will simply ride by with their head down. I always thought that even if you wanted to be left alone, at least acknowledging the overtaken rider was the polite thing to do. One thought is that these are tri's who have taken off the aero bars and are not real roadies.
I have a cool bike, wear a cycling hat with the bill turned up under my helmet, and wear red aero covers over my booties or shoes. Are these riders just showing me "they are the man". Should I latch on to their wheel, and then sprint by to show them I am the man?
What am I missing?
Steve Brown
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