I agree with Mike and it is unfair with what went on. Technically OBRA
has adopted the SAME Racing Rules as the USCF on all types of races.
Just because its OBRA doesnt mean that we can bend the rules or make
amendments to them for certain circumstances. PIR is almost a "mix"
between a criterium and a Road Race. I think the officals blend the
rules for both? Rules governing road racing and Criterium racing
regarding lapped riders is as follows:
SECTION 3C3:
"A lapped rider or one who as fallen too far behind and is considered to
be out contention may be called off the course by the Chief Ref."
Note: PIR riders are allowed to continue to "race/ride". however PIR is
a "training" race, but there is NO such thing as "training" race rules
and road race rules. training road race=road race, no difference.
"Riders on differnt laps may not give or receive pace(drafting) from one
another." easy enough rule, if you are lapped you ride at the back of
the field, not taking pace from the draft of the field. THIS also means
that to do this you let the field pass then continue to ride.
Technically you are neutral as the field passes, then you can continue
on your way. THIS also doesnt mean that you think you can "squezze"
into the field when its strung out single file, and think someone will
let you in.
"A Lapped rider may not interfere in ANY prime sprint or finishing
sprint...." a very simple rule. enough said.
Criterium Rules state about lapped riders is:
3D3:
"...Lapped riders may be permitted to remain in the race and will finish
on the same lap as the leaders..."
3D4:
"Riders on different laps may work together except that no rider may
drop back to assist a rider that has broken away from the field."
pages 56, 58. 2000 uscf rulebk
Please let me know if im at ALL incorrect on the statements above,
officals, race directors?....
thanks.
--Jim
Mike Murray wrote:
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I reading these results I notice that there is at least one rider who is
listed as placing who did not complete the full distance of the race. One
rider quit with 10 or so laps to go! Since this is a points race format the
points should be used to resolve the placing of riders that are on the same
number of laps. Is it far or reasonable to place people that don't even
finish the race?
The other problem with lapped riders that was particularly bad last night is
that many people were getting dropped or stopping (often from the middle of
the field) and then re-joining the race after sitting out a lap and
continuing to sprint and chase breaks and otherwise effect the race. Even
worse they would often re-join and then get dropped again while many riders
on even laps were gapped behind them.
It appears that the most effective technique to ride PIR under the current
format would be to sit out all but the sprint laps.
Is this something that bothers just me or do other people think it is unfair
also? Does anyone have a solution?
Personally I think that we need to have a lead vehicle for each field. This
would make the officiating much easier. Lapped riders would be noted
immediately. Currently the officials have little idea if someone is a lap
down. Neutralizing when different fields pass each other would be much
safer and more fair. Officials could actually make some judgments for foul
riding. Perhaps having a designated lantern rouge rider that lapped riders
needed to stay behind would be a way to allow lapped riders to continue to
ride without effecting the race.
Mike Murray
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From: Oregon Bicycle Racing [mailto:ob-@teleport.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:10 PM
To: ob-@teleport.com
Subject: Results-Tuesday PIR
PIR Race Series
July 11, 2000
Cately 1/2/3
1st. Graham Hill, Logie velo 12 13 28
2nd. Evan Elken, Bike&Hike 12 12 24
3rd. Pietro Buttita, Bike&Hike 10 7 17
4th. Terry McLeod, Saturn of Belluvue 7 4 11
5th. Steve Wright, Logie Velo 0 9 9
6th. Charles Hailey, Team Nissan 8 8
7th/ Jeff Mitchem, Logie Velo 5 3 8
8th. John Leonard, Team S&M 3 4 7
9th. Kelly Wieber, Safeway/Sturn 6 6
10th. Corey Stayton, Wizards 0 5 5
11th. Steve Swartzendruber, Logie 4 4
12th. Jamie Mikami, Safeway/Saturn 0 2 2
13th. Duncan Oliphant, River's Edge 0 2 2
14th. Andreas Oswald, North River Racing 1 1
Category 4/5
1st. DAvid Hopper, Logie Velo 15 3 18
2nd. Nathan Hobbson,bike/Seratto 8 6 14
3rd. Eric Hopper, Logie Velo 10 3 13
4th. Sam Richardson 12 12
5th. Dominic VanHorn, Team Oregon 7 7
6th. Dean Tracy, Safeway/Saturn 6 6
7th. Pete Piva, Hutch's 5 5
8th. Patrick Edenfield 4 4
9th. Brian Spears, Lakeside 3 3
10th. Robert Nobles, Team Oreogn 2 2
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