RE: rule changes

Pat Sagers

2003-01-10

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My question would be what the complaining was about. Were there legitimate

arguments or was it about ego and bragging rights?

As an older gentleman, I would want the ability to compete where my skill

and strength has led me. But maybe the reasons for the rules should be

displayed again, as I'm not too sure what they are.



Pat Sagers

Systems Engineer

Orcom Solution, Inc.

(541)389-0120 x1554



-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:55 PM

To: obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] rule changes



Well yeah if you read it literally. But the governing body (you know the

evil empire) has in the past let older masters ride down an age group. The

interpretation was that they had been that age and now were at a deficit

since they were older. We let some of the older guys ride down last year at

the state road race and had some complaints, so we are trying to get the

feel from the other riders and make the rule clearer.

Is that any help?

Candi







-----Original Message-----

From: Erik Voldengen [mailto:eri-@fusium.com]

Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:49 PM

To: cmur-@obra.org; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] rule changes





Since the masters categories are defined by age,

that suggested rule change makes little sense to me...





 Currently we have one suggested rule change to make if consistent for

masters to ride down an age group at the championships. So a 40-49 man

could ride in the 30-39 championships and place.



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<P><FONT SIZE=2>My question would be what the complaining was about.  Were there legitimate arguments or was it about ego and bragging rights?</FONT></P>



<P><FONT SIZE=2>As an older gentleman, I would want the ability to compete where my skill and strength has led me.  But maybe the reasons for the rules should be displayed again, as I'm not too sure what they are.</FONT></P>



<P><FONT SIZE=2>Pat Sagers</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Systems Engineer</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Orcom Solution, Inc.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(541)389-0120 x1554</FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn [<A HREF="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">mailto:cmur-@obra.org</A>]</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:55 PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: obra</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] rule changes</FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Well yeah if you read it literally.  But the governing body (you know the</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>evil empire) has in the past let older masters ride down an age group.  The</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>interpretation was that they had been that age and now were at a deficit</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>since they were older.  We let some of the older guys ride down last year at</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the state road race and had some complaints, so we are trying to get the</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>feel from the other riders and make the rule clearer.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Is that any help?</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Candi</FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Erik Voldengen [<A HREF="mailto:eri-@fusium.com">mailto:eri-@fusium.com</A>]</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:49 PM</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: cmur-@obra.org; obra</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] rule changes</FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Since the masters categories are defined by age,</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that suggested rule change makes little sense to me...</FONT>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> Currently we have one suggested rule change to make if consistent for</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> masters to ride down an age group at the championships.  So a 40-49 man</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> could ride in the 30-39 championships and place.</FONT>

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