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Jeff McNamee

2003-01-13

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I second that!! It's not the dog's fault!!

Jeff McNamee

Graduate Assistant

Oregon State University

Exercise and Sport Science

Women's Building 004

Corvallis, OR 97330

Phone: 541-737-5932

Fax: 541-737-6613

----- Original Message -----

From: Jay Martineau

To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:44 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...

> You might want to see about getting that dog put down.

Why is it that when an unattended dog follows it's prey instinct and chases

something on the run people say this type of thing?

Kill the owner for not properly caring for it's pet.

Jay Martineau

----- Original Message -----

From: "Pfeifle, Hank" <Hank.P-@colehaan.com>

To: <Ivan.C.-@intel.com>; "'Dav-@Hevanet.Com'" <Dav-@hevanet.com>;

<ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:09 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...

> Hey, Ivan,

>

> You might want to see about getting that dog put down. It sounds like the

> same one that attacked Steve Wright about 2 years ago and put a huge bite

> into Steve's thigh.

>

> Hank

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Meadors, Ivan C [mailto:Ivan.C.-@intel.com]

> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:28 PM

> To: 'Dav-@Hevanet.Com'; ob-@topica.com

> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...

>

>

> Details pertaining to the cyclist/dog incident on Skyline, Saturday

morning,

>

> January. 11;

> I (Ivan Meadors) was riding with a group of Corben-HuntAir team-mates

> including

> Ron Magnus, Ron Feldman, Mike Mauch, Beth Whittaker plus a couple of other

> cyclists; Jan Moss & Dean Lucas. We had climbed up Thompson and were

heading

> west

> on Skyline, looking forward to a training ride on a dry morning. As we

> approached

> Springville Rd, where Skyline descends then has a short intermediate

length

> climb,

> Mike and Dean rolled off the front by about 20 meters. Ron M, Ron F and

> myself

> accelerated to take advantage of the downhill. As we approached the red

> barn, just

> prior to where Springville Road intersects Skyline, a large shepherd dog

> came charging

> out from either the corner of the barn or beneath the fence. I think Ron F

> was in front

> of me and I remember seeing the dog only for a second or less. None of us

> had a chance

> to issue a warning; it appeared that the dog was intent on coming right

into

> me, almost

> as if it had been laying in wait to attack the bike. It was about an 80

> pound dog, so when

> it hit the front wheel (the dog ended up with scratches on it's nose/face,

> suggesting

> to me that it only contacted the wheel from the side) there was little

hope

> for me

> to remain upright. I somersaulted and impacted on my left shoulder blade,

at

> which point

> I felt/heard the clavicle/collar-bone break, followed by impacting the

back

> of my helmet

> on the road surface (I felt the helmet bouncing twice on the surface). I

> slid for a ways,

> then I either rolled off the road surface or was assisted from the road (a

> brief moment

> of obscurity) to the gravel on the edge. Fortunately, the riders in our

> group included

> two people from the medical industry (thanks Jan Moss & Dean Lucas), who

> provided proper

> recommendations and support. And of course, the 911 cell-phone call by Ron

!

> The neighbors

> in the area provided blankets and support and the dog's owner was notified

> (thanks Beth).

> The ambulance picked me up and that's the end of the story for about 6

> weeks.

>

> A touch of deja vu: the ambulance driver was the same one who had reacted

to

> the last

> call (11 years ago) for a cycling accident on Skyline in which I was

> involved (but that

> time it was only as an observer, not a victim).

>

> Thank you to those who helped and to those who sent their regards ...

> See you in 6 weeks

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: David Auker [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]

> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 3:36 PM

> To: ob-@topica.com

> Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...

>

>

> In another incident, today my riding group came upon some cyclists

standing

> alongside Skyline, near Thompson. One was lying down, partially covered

> with blankets. Ivan Meadors evidently collided with a dog, and from what

he

> said, it sounds like he injured his clavicle. He was being assisted by

the

> rest of his group and at least one other person (I couldn't tell if he was

a

> motorist or a resident of the area). A fire truck and ambulance arrived

> shortly.

>

> I'm thankful/hopeful it wasn't too severe an accident, as it was on a

> downhill stretch.

>

> I trust I haven't invaded Ivan's privacy by reporting this! We look

forward

> to hearing details on his recovery!

>

> Be careful out there!

>

> David A.

>

>

> ----

> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...

>

>

> > Hi. I just read this. Was anyone else on the obra list riding with him

in

> > that group? Is that really how it happened? Anyone have contact info?

> >

> > http://www.registerguard.com/news/2003/01/11/1b.cr.bikecrash.0111.html

> >

> > -Chris

> >

>

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<DIV>I second that!! It's not the dog's fault!!</DIV>

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<DIV>Jeff McNamee Graduate Assistant Oregon State University Exercise

and Sport Science Women's Building 004 Corvallis, OR 97330 Phone:

541-737-5932 Fax: 541-737-6613 </DIV>

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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>

<DIV

style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:

<A href="mailto:jmart-@earthlink.net" title=jm-@earthlink.net>Jay

Martineau</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A href="mailto:ob-@topica.com"

title-@topica.com>ob-@topica.com</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:44

AM</DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist

injured...</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>> You might want to see about getting that dog put

down. Why is it that when an unattended dog follows it's prey instinct and

chases something on the run people say this type of thing? Kill the

owner for not properly caring for it's pet. Jay Martineau -----

Original Message ----- From: "Pfeifle, Hank" <<A

href="mailto:Hank.P-@colehaan.com">Hank.P-@colehaan.com</A>> To:

<<A

href="mailto:Ivan.C.-@intel.com">Ivan.C.-@intel.com</A>>; "<A

href="mailto:'Dav-@Hevanet.Com'">'Dav-@Hevanet.Com'</A>" <<A

href="mailto:Dav-@hevanet.com">Dav-@hevanet.com</A>>; <<A

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A>> Sent: Monday, January

13, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist

injured... > Hey, Ivan, > > You might want to see

about getting that dog put down. It sounds like the > same one that

attacked Steve Wright about 2 years ago and put a huge bite > into

Steve's thigh. > > Hank > > -----Original

Message----- > From: Meadors, Ivan C [<A

href="mailto:Ivan.C.-@intel.com">mailto:Ivan.C.-@intel.com</A>] >

Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:28 PM > To: <A

href="mailto:'Dav-@Hevanet.Com'">'Dav-@Hevanet.Com'</A>; <A

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A> > Subject: [OBRA Chat]

Cyclist injured... > > > Details pertaining to the

cyclist/dog incident on Skyline, Saturday morning, > > January.

11; > I (Ivan Meadors) was riding with a group of Corben-HuntAir

team-mates > including > Ron Magnus, Ron Feldman, Mike Mauch, Beth

Whittaker plus a couple of other > cyclists; Jan Moss & Dean Lucas.

We had climbed up Thompson and were heading > west > on

Skyline, looking forward to a training ride on a dry morning. As we >

approached > Springville Rd, where Skyline descends then has a short

intermediate length > climb, > Mike and Dean rolled off the

front by about 20 meters. Ron M, Ron F and > myself > accelerated

to take advantage of the downhill. As we approached the red > barn,

just > prior to where Springville Road intersects Skyline, a large

shepherd dog > came charging > out from either the corner of the

barn or beneath the fence. I think Ron F > was in front > of me

and I remember seeing the dog only for a second or less. None of us >

had a chance > to issue a warning; it appeared that the dog was intent

on coming right into > me, almost > as if it had been laying in

wait to attack the bike. It was about an 80 > pound dog, so when >

it hit the front wheel (the dog ended up with scratches on it's

nose/face, > suggesting > to me that it only contacted the wheel

from the side) there was little hope > for me > to remain

upright. I somersaulted and impacted on my left shoulder blade, at >

which point > I felt/heard the clavicle/collar-bone break, followed by

impacting the back > of my helmet > on the road surface (I felt

the helmet bouncing twice on the surface). I > slid for a ways, >

then I either rolled off the road surface or was assisted from the road

(a > brief moment > of obscurity) to the gravel on the edge.

Fortunately, the riders in our > group included > two people from

the medical industry (thanks Jan Moss & Dean Lucas), who > provided

proper > recommendations and support. And of course, the 911 cell-phone

call by Ron ! > The neighbors > in the area provided blankets

and support and the dog's owner was notified > (thanks Beth). >

The ambulance picked me up and that's the end of the story for about 6 >

weeks. > > A touch of deja vu: the ambulance driver was the same

one who had reacted to > the last > call (11 years ago) for a

cycling accident on Skyline in which I was > involved (but that >

time it was only as an observer, not a victim). > > Thank you to

those who helped and to those who sent their regards ... > See you in 6

weeks > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David

Auker [<A

href="mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com">mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com</A>] > Sent:

Saturday, January 11, 2003 3:36 PM > To: <A

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A> > Subject: RE: [OBRA

Chat] Cyclist injured... > > > In another incident, today my

riding group came upon some cyclists standing > alongside Skyline,

near Thompson. One was lying down, partially covered > with

blankets. Ivan Meadors evidently collided with a dog, and from

what he > said, it sounds like he injured his clavicle. He was

being assisted by the > rest of his group and at least one other

person (I couldn't tell if he was a > motorist or a resident of the

area). A fire truck and ambulance arrived >

shortly. > > I'm thankful/hopeful it wasn't too severe an

accident, as it was on a > downhill stretch. > > I trust I

haven't invaded Ivan's privacy by reporting this! We

look forward > to hearing details on his recovery! > > Be

careful out there! > > David A. > > >

---- > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist

injured... > > > > Hi. I just read this. Was anyone else

on the obra list riding with him in > > that group? Is that really

how it happened? Anyone have contact info? > > > > <A

href="http://www.registerguard.com/news/2003/01/11/1b.cr.bikecrash.0111.html">http://www.registerguard.com/news/2003/01/11/1b.cr.bikecrash.0111.html</A> >

> > > -Chris > > > > To respond to the whole

group send to <A href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A>. > To

respond to the list manager send to <A

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send to <A

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