mike.m-@obra.org
Because it is easier to kill dogs then it is to kill people, from multiple
points of view.
Mike Murray
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Martineau [mailto:jmart-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:44 AM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...
You might want to see about getting that dog put down.
Why is it that when an unattended dog follows it's prey instinct and chases
something on the run people say this type of thing?
Kill the owner for not properly caring for it's pet.
Jay Martineau
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pfeifle, Hank" <Hank.P-@colehaan.com>
To: <Ivan.C.-@intel.com>; "'Dav-@Hevanet.Com'" <Dav-@hevanet.com>;
<ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...
Hey, Ivan,
You might want to see about getting that dog put down. It sounds like the
same one that attacked Steve Wright about 2 years ago and put a huge bite
into Steve's thigh.
Hank
-----Original Message-----
From: Meadors, Ivan C [mailto:Ivan.C.-@intel.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:28 PM
To: 'Dav-@Hevanet.Com'; ob-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...
Details pertaining to the cyclist/dog incident on Skyline, Saturday
morning,
January. 11;
I (Ivan Meadors) was riding with a group of Corben-HuntAir team-mates
including
Ron Magnus, Ron Feldman, Mike Mauch, Beth Whittaker plus a couple of other
cyclists; Jan Moss & Dean Lucas. We had climbed up Thompson and were
heading
west
on Skyline, looking forward to a training ride on a dry morning. As we
approached
Springville Rd, where Skyline descends then has a short intermediate
length
climb,
Mike and Dean rolled off the front by about 20 meters. Ron M, Ron F and
myself
accelerated to take advantage of the downhill. As we approached the red
barn, just
prior to where Springville Road intersects Skyline, a large shepherd dog
came charging
out from either the corner of the barn or beneath the fence. I think Ron F
was in front
of me and I remember seeing the dog only for a second or less. None of us
had a chance
to issue a warning; it appeared that the dog was intent on coming right
into
me, almost
as if it had been laying in wait to attack the bike. It was about an 80
pound dog, so when
it hit the front wheel (the dog ended up with scratches on it's nose/face,
suggesting
to me that it only contacted the wheel from the side) there was little
hope
for me
to remain upright. I somersaulted and impacted on my left shoulder blade,
at
which point
I felt/heard the clavicle/collar-bone break, followed by impacting the
back
of my helmet
on the road surface (I felt the helmet bouncing twice on the surface). I
slid for a ways,
then I either rolled off the road surface or was assisted from the road (a
brief moment
of obscurity) to the gravel on the edge. Fortunately, the riders in our
group included
two people from the medical industry (thanks Jan Moss & Dean Lucas), who
provided proper
recommendations and support. And of course, the 911 cell-phone call by Ron
!
The neighbors
in the area provided blankets and support and the dog's owner was notified
(thanks Beth).
The ambulance picked me up and that's the end of the story for about 6
weeks.
A touch of deja vu: the ambulance driver was the same one who had reacted
to
the last
call (11 years ago) for a cycling accident on Skyline in which I was
involved (but that
time it was only as an observer, not a victim).
Thank you to those who helped and to those who sent their regards ...
See you in 6 weeks
-----Original Message-----
From: David Auker [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.Com]
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 3:36 PM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...
In another incident, today my riding group came upon some cyclists
standing
alongside Skyline, near Thompson. One was lying down, partially covered
with blankets. Ivan Meadors evidently collided with a dog, and from what
he
said, it sounds like he injured his clavicle. He was being assisted by
the
rest of his group and at least one other person (I couldn't tell if he was
a
motorist or a resident of the area). A fire truck and ambulance arrived
shortly.
I'm thankful/hopeful it wasn't too severe an accident, as it was on a
downhill stretch.
I trust I haven't invaded Ivan's privacy by reporting this! We look
forward
to hearing details on his recovery!
Be careful out there!
David A.
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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclist injured...
Hi. I just read this. Was anyone else on the obra list riding with him
in
that group? Is that really how it happened? Anyone have contact info?
http://www.registerguard.com/news/2003/01/11/1b.cr.bikecrash.0111.html
-Chris
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