Rick Johnson
Wow. Mr. Manning, who started this after all? The thread bears your name.
The only honorable thing for you to do is apologize and hope the better
part of this community forgives your transgression.
Or you could persist in revealing your lack of character. Either way, I
think you should take this petty bickering off list.
Rick
Rick Johnson
Bend Oregon
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On 11/12/2013 10:13 AM, J. Michael Manning wrote:
> First, I would like to make it clear that my posting was never
> intended to be an attack on Jeff Tedder or Hammer Nutrition. But when
> attacked , I will snap back. I will not be bullied by anyone. Jeff, if
> you can't take the heat, don't start the fight!
> Mike Manning
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Jeff Tedder
> >
> wrote:
>
> Manning, as to your cute little Panty quote, my first gut reaction
> is to just knock the S..t out of you, that might make me feel
> better but then Candi, Mike and Kenji would not be happy with me
> and I can't have that as I respect them and what we all strive for
> in OBRA, or at least most of us.....A great cycling and bike
> racing community with friendly people that just want to race their
> bikes and train hard.......So I will take the HIGH ROAD and let
> your own actions bury you, which from the feedback I have seen and
> the 25 or so direct emails I got, yep you pretty much did the job
> buddy......It's nice to know that people really do support all the
> hard work some us put into trying to build respectful teams and
> businesses in the cycling world, its not easy and alot of hard
> work, plus keeping quality people around on our teams is
> key.......Maybe you should work at that instead of all your
> propaganda BS you put on OBRA chat.....Just want to thank all of
> you that emailed me direct and gave me your thoughts.....onward
> and upward as they say.....
> HAMMER ON!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Jeff Tedder
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* J. Michael Manning
> *To:* Jeff Tedder
> *Cc:* Josh LeBus ; OBRA
>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2013 8:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Legal Performance Enhancement
>
> Don't get your panties in a wad, Jeff! Thanks for pointing out
> the "old news". It still doesn't change anything. The point
> here is not that I am slamming Hammer... they are just one of
> hundreds of reputable companies that run the risk of
> unintentional contamination. NSF Certified for Sport sets the
> new standard for quality and purity. USA Cycling has held the
> stance for quite awhile that coaches should discourage their
> athletes from supplementing just for that reason. Of course,
> OBRA racers never have to worry about drug testing as long as
> they stick to OBRA racing. On the other hand, if you choose to
> maintain a standard that says "I race clean", Klean Athlete is
> the ticket.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Jeff Tedder
> > wrote:
>
> Wow, lets see this was 2008.2009, old news buddy.....look
> at the date on the article.....and nothing was proven at
> all if I remember correctly!!!!!!...in fact a few other
> mates of hers used Endurolytes out of the SAME bottle and
> none of them tested positive, HMMMM..... it was witch hunt
> for a few that got caught as in being dirty......and this
> was easy to blame on Hammer.....Really, this is the way
> you want to market some new product by trashing a
> great company that goes OUT of there way to teach people
> about nutrition and does more for endurance athletes as
> far as education and they have some of the greatest
> endurance athletes as far as Ultra people this country has
> ever seen that work there, Dr. Bill Misner, Steve Born
> etc....They are and always well be a stand up
> company......and in NO-WAY would ever purposely
> contaminate anything they sell....Why??? The probably 10's
> of throusands of atheltes from Pro's to Rec athletes using
> this product every year and no issues, then a few bottles
> pop up contaminated.....I don't think so....Maybe
> reconsider trying to sell your product versus trashing
> someones elses to get people to change.....Pretty
> LAME!!!!!!!!!!!
> Jeff Tedder
> Solid Core Training
> Portland PACE
> Hammer Velo
> 503-473-7650
> .
> *From:* Josh LeBus
>
> *To:* J. Michael Manning
> *Cc:* OBRA
> *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2013 7:34 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OBRA Chat] Legal Performance Enhancement
>
> Can't wait for this email "chain" to get started.
> Ready.. Set., go!!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:20 PM, "J. Michael Manning"
> >
> wrote:
>
>> With all the current news related to the USA Cycling
>> RaceClean program and Amber Neben, et al suing Hammer
>> Nutrition over contaminated products, now is the
>> perfect time to reconsider the source of your chosen
>> performance enhancement. If you are unfamiliar with
>> the suit, check it out here:
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/neben-others-sue-hammer-nutrition-over-contamination-1
>>
>> Klean Athlete is leading the way in sports nutrition
>> with NSF Certified for Sport® products, certified to
>> be clean of banned substances. You can purchase these
>> locally at Fit4ever Wellness. While I have your
>> attention, keep your antennae up for our upcoming
>> seminar series on performance enhancing supplements
>> that are totally legal. They do exist!
>> J.Michael Manning
>>
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