Todd Mobley

Wow, thanks so much for the many helpful replies both on and off list. As
usual, the OBRA community comes through. I plan to watch the weather while
we're there and make the ride midweek. For those that asked, I'll give you
the post-ride report.

Thanks!

-Todd

Todd E. Mobley, PE, PTOE | Principal
Lancaster Engineering | www.lancasterengineering.com
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On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Todd Mobley
wrote:

> Has anyone made the 10k+ climb? We're headed to Maui the first week of
> December and I'm thinking of giving it a go. Any sage advice or local
> wisdom?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Todd
>

Sarah Tisdale

Haleakela GPS Logs:
- http://www.strava.com/activities/304970#4775428
- http://connect.garmin.com/activity/147564488

Haleakela Water/Food:
- 7.0 mi: Grocery in Makawao (water, food, espresso)
- 13.5mi: Stores/Restaurants in Kula (water, food)
- 25.3mi: Visitors Center (shelter, water)
- 34.7mi: Summit Visitors Center (shelter, water)
- 35.5mi: Summit (shelter, no water/food)

Haleakela Notes:
- Bring cash for park entrance
- Option to start/finish in Makawao for slower riders

Other Maui Rides:

- West Maui Loop (both directions are nice, but IMO clockwise is better)
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/148853983

- East Maui Loop - two day trip
- Do it counter-clockwise
- Stay overnight in Hana (Joe's Hostel is cheap)
- Bad pavement / Dirt road on the first day
- Some of the quietest and most scenic roads
- Almost no services on day 1
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/148182849
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/148182873

- Waipoli Rd (steepest climb on Maui?)
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/149584044

- Iao Needle (shorter ride)
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/148558554

- Pretty hills above Makawao (Could be a hard ride. We took it easy)
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/148382684

- Wailea / Lava Fields (shorter recovery ride)
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/147741221

Kaitlin Borstelmann

Maui Cyclery in Paia is great for rentals!
-Kaitlin Borstelmann
On Nov 16, 2013 5:00 PM, "EAL" wrote:

>
> I'm thinking of doing the same thing in the third week of December.
> Great tips, but any recommendations on bike rentals? I don't think I'm
> going to be able to bring my bike on this trip
>
> Thanks
> Ed
>
>
> On Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:16 PM, David Caplan <
> dcaplan@bendcable.com> wrote:
> Pick your day with the most stable weather and get as early of a start
> as you can. Bring lots of warm clothes. We started on a March day at 6am
> under sunny skies and still had clear skies and sun at 7000'. By 8000' we
> had clouds, 9000' we had temps in the 40's and cold foggy rain. 10,000'
> colder and foggier. Early afternoon and we had an NPS Police officer hassle
> us for 20 minutes at the summit for not having lights for the way down.
> Actually threatened to ticket us and not let us descend. When he approached
> us at the summit I thought he was there to congratulate us! That 20 minutes
> was enough time to become hypothermic, so my wife and I spent time in the
> bathrooms at the top using the hand dryers to try and get warm and dry for
> the descent. We had layers, waterproof shells, winter gloves and still I
> was shivering so hard I could barely keep the bike going straight. Had to
> stop again and use the hand dryers at the Visitors Center to try and warm
> up enough to get back down to our house in Paia. By Makawao it had warmed
> up enough that we weren't shivering, but it was raining so hard that the
> road was a red river. Had to pour water out of our frames at the end of the
> ride and fried a powertap hub. Coldest I've ever been on a bike… on Maui!
> Last year it was so windy every day we were there we didn't even make an
> attempt. All that said, I would do it again for sure, and someday I am
> going to get to enjoy that amazing decent on a warm dry sunny day.
>
> There is SO much amazing riding on Maui. An out and back, or full loop to
> Hana is a must-do. From Paia up and over to the winery is a joy. The road
> on the NW coast sucks in a car but makes a great out and back from Paia.
> Jealous. Have fun!
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John Gill

I rented a bike from boss frog bikes in lahaina. I dont like that chain for
surf or snorkel stuff...but the bike shop was new and the staff was really
great with a nice mechanic. I got an ultegra level carbon bike for like $50
for the day? They said they were getting supersixes soon (this was last
spring).
West Maui loop was fun. 60+ miles of up and down with some great smooth
descents (did it clockwise) but a lot of wind along the coast on the way
back to lahaina.
John
On Nov 16, 2013 5:00 PM, "EAL" wrote:

>
> I'm thinking of doing the same thing in the third week of December.
> Great tips, but any recommendations on bike rentals? I don't think I'm
> going to be able to bring my bike on this trip
>
> Thanks
> Ed
>
>
> On Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:16 PM, David Caplan <
> dcaplan@bendcable.com> wrote:
> Pick your day with the most stable weather and get as early of a start
> as you can. Bring lots of warm clothes. We started on a March day at 6am
> under sunny skies and still had clear skies and sun at 7000'. By 8000' we
> had clouds, 9000' we had temps in the 40's and cold foggy rain. 10,000'
> colder and foggier. Early afternoon and we had an NPS Police officer hassle
> us for 20 minutes at the summit for not having lights for the way down.
> Actually threatened to ticket us and not let us descend. When he approached
> us at the summit I thought he was there to congratulate us! That 20 minutes
> was enough time to become hypothermic, so my wife and I spent time in the
> bathrooms at the top using the hand dryers to try and get warm and dry for
> the descent. We had layers, waterproof shells, winter gloves and still I
> was shivering so hard I could barely keep the bike going straight. Had to
> stop again and use the hand dryers at the Visitors Center to try and warm
> up enough to get back down to our house in Paia. By Makawao it had warmed
> up enough that we weren't shivering, but it was raining so hard that the
> road was a red river. Had to pour water out of our frames at the end of the
> ride and fried a powertap hub. Coldest I've ever been on a bike… on Maui!
> Last year it was so windy every day we were there we didn't even make an
> attempt. All that said, I would do it again for sure, and someday I am
> going to get to enjoy that amazing decent on a warm dry sunny day.
>
> There is SO much amazing riding on Maui. An out and back, or full loop to
> Hana is a must-do. From Paia up and over to the winery is a joy. The road
> on the NW coast sucks in a car but makes a great out and back from Paia.
> Jealous. Have fun!
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Mike Rosenfeld

West Maui bikes have some nice bikes. last time I was there it was $60 for
24 hour rental of a nice carbon specialized with compact gearing.

If you get locked out of the climb due to weather do the west maui loop. 60
miles of pure bliss. Started it in the rain and 72degrees. up and down
around the north end of the island..one lane road...fog layers, little
villages. It was an amazing ride.

On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:58 PM, EAL wrote:

>
> I'm thinking of doing the same thing in the third week of December.
> Great tips, but any recommendations on bike rentals? I don't think I'm
> going to be able to bring my bike on this trip
>
> Thanks
> Ed
>
>
> On Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:16 PM, David Caplan <
> dcaplan@bendcable.com> wrote:
> Pick your day with the most stable weather and get as early of a start
> as you can. Bring lots of warm clothes. We started on a March day at 6am
> under sunny skies and still had clear skies and sun at 7000'. By 8000' we
> had clouds, 9000' we had temps in the 40's and cold foggy rain. 10,000'
> colder and foggier. Early afternoon and we had an NPS Police officer hassle
> us for 20 minutes at the summit for not having lights for the way down.
> Actually threatened to ticket us and not let us descend. When he approached
> us at the summit I thought he was there to congratulate us! That 20 minutes
> was enough time to become hypothermic, so my wife and I spent time in the
> bathrooms at the top using the hand dryers to try and get warm and dry for
> the descent. We had layers, waterproof shells, winter gloves and still I
> was shivering so hard I could barely keep the bike going straight. Had to
> stop again and use the hand dryers at the Visitors Center to try and warm
> up enough to get back down to our house in Paia. By Makawao it had warmed
> up enough that we weren't shivering, but it was raining so hard that the
> road was a red river. Had to pour water out of our frames at the end of the
> ride and fried a powertap hub. Coldest I've ever been on a bike… on Maui!
> Last year it was so windy every day we were there we didn't even make an
> attempt. All that said, I would do it again for sure, and someday I am
> going to get to enjoy that amazing decent on a warm dry sunny day.
>
> There is SO much amazing riding on Maui. An out and back, or full loop to
> Hana is a must-do. From Paia up and over to the winery is a joy. The road
> on the NW coast sucks in a car but makes a great out and back from Paia.
> Jealous. Have fun!
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EAL

I'm thinking of doing the same thing in the third week of December.   Great tips, but any recommendations on bike rentals?  I don't think I'm going to be able to bring my bike on this trip

Thanks
Ed

On Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:16 PM, David Caplan wrote:

Pick your day with the most stable weather and get as early of a start as you can. Bring lots of warm clothes. We started on a March day at 6am under sunny skies and still had clear skies and sun at 7000'. By 8000' we had clouds, 9000' we had temps in the 40's and cold foggy rain. 10,000' colder and foggier. Early afternoon and we had an NPS Police officer hassle us for 20 minutes at the summit for not having lights for the way down. Actually threatened to ticket us and not let us descend. When he approached us at the summit I thought he was there to congratulate us! That 20 minutes was enough time to become hypothermic, so my wife and I spent time in the bathrooms at the top using the hand dryers to try and get warm and dry for the descent. We had layers, waterproof shells, winter gloves and still I was shivering so hard I could barely keep the bike going straight. Had to stop again and use the hand dryers at the Visitors Center to try and warm up
enough to get back down to our house in Paia. By Makawao it had warmed up enough that we weren't shivering, but it was raining so hard that the road was a red river. Had to pour water out of our frames at the end of the ride and fried a powertap hub. Coldest I've ever been on a bike… on Maui! Last year it was so windy every day we were there we didn't even make an attempt. All that said, I would do it again for sure, and someday I am going to get to enjoy that amazing decent on a warm dry sunny day.

There is SO much amazing riding on Maui. An out and back, or full loop to Hana is a must-do. From Paia up and over to the winery is a joy. The road on the NW coast sucks in a car but makes a great out and back from Paia. Jealous. Have fun!
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Mike Rosenfeld

it will be 40degrees and raining sideways at the top if you are lucky.
Take some extra clothes.

other than that just spin it out and enjoy the ride back down.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Todd Mobley
wrote:

> Has anyone made the 10k+ climb? We're headed to Maui the first week of
> December and I'm thinking of giving it a go. Any sage advice or local
> wisdom?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Todd
>
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>
>

David Caplan

Pick your day with the most stable weather and get as early of a start as you can. Bring lots of warm clothes. We started on a March day at 6am under sunny skies and still had clear skies and sun at 7000'. By 8000' we had clouds, 9000' we had temps in the 40's and cold foggy rain. 10,000' colder and foggier. Early afternoon and we had an NPS Police officer hassle us for 20 minutes at the summit for not having lights for the way down. Actually threatened to ticket us and not let us descend. When he approached us at the summit I thought he was there to congratulate us! That 20 minutes was enough time to become hypothermic, so my wife and I spent time in the bathrooms at the top using the hand dryers to try and get warm and dry for the descent. We had layers, waterproof shells, winter gloves and still I was shivering so hard I could barely keep the bike going straight. Had to stop again and use the hand dryers at the Visitors Center to try and warm up enough to get back down to our house in Paia. By Makawao it had warmed up enough that we weren't shivering, but it was raining so hard that the road was a red river. Had to pour water out of our frames at the end of the ride and fried a powertap hub. Coldest I've ever been on a bike��� on Maui! Last year it was so windy every day we were there we didn't even make an attempt. All that said, I would do it again for sure, and someday I am going to get to enjoy that amazing decent on a warm dry sunny day.

There is SO much amazing riding on Maui. An out and back, or full loop to Hana is a must-do. From Paia up and over to the winery is a joy. The road on the NW coast sucks in a car but makes a great out and back from Paia. Jealous. Have fun!

Todd Mobley

Has anyone made the 10k+ climb? We're headed to Maui the first week of
December and I'm thinking of giving it a go. Any sage advice or local
wisdom?

Thanks!

-Todd