T. Kenji Sugahara

Just as a heads up- the author of the proposed rule has withdrawn it.
I'll change the PDF to reflect that.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On 2/5/2014 6:37 PM, velodad@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> by the way, this would have meant 15 riders from 3 teams would have been
>> at last years obra crit champs and 24 riders would have been sent home.
>> Same in the road race with just 3 teams, although 22 riders this time, and
>> again 24 riders sent home.
>>
>
> Sounds like a rule only the UCI could love. Whose bright idea is this
> anyway?
>
> It sounds like whoever proposed this one should speak up or I expect it's
> going down in OBRA Chat soaked flames...
>
>
> Rick Johnson
> Bend, Oregon
>
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Rick Johnson

On 2/5/2014 6:37 PM, velodad@comcast.net wrote:
> by the way, this would have meant 15 riders from 3 teams would have
> been at last years obra crit champs and 24 riders would have been sent
> home. Same in the road race with just 3 teams, although 22 riders
> this time, and again 24 riders sent home.
>

Sounds like a rule only the UCI could love. Whose bright idea is this
anyway?

It sounds like whoever proposed this one should speak up or I expect
it's going down in OBRA Chat soaked flames...

Rick Johnson
Bend, Oregon

velodad@comcast.net

by the way, this would have meant 15 riders from 3 teams would have been at last years obra crit champs and 24 riders would have been sent home. Same in the road race with just 3 teams, although 22 riders this time, and again 24 riders sent home.

Sorry, bad idea.

From: velodad@comcast.net
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Thank you for bringing that one up. I will make sure that my team is aware of this and votes against that one in particular. Seems very odd, I am curious the reason it was thought to be needed? I would be pissed if I was told I could not do the obra crit championships because I don’t have a team ... as would a few others.

Jamie

On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Brian Ratliff wrote:

Maybe this isn't the place, but what triggered the Cat 1/2 "team" rule for consideration? Seems against the grass-roots nature of OBRA and frankly a little nonsensical. More to the point, if I, by some stroke of luck/training, make it into Cat 2 on the road (come on... not THAT big of a stretch...;) ), I'm all of the sudden barred from major races because my team is made up of 4 other trackies?

Brian

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Candi Murray wrote:

If you, or a team representative is not attending the meeting, please send along your vote

Candi

On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:40 PM, "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:

> Here they are!
>
> http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Board_Candidates.pdf
>
> http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Rule_Change_Proposals.pdf
>
> Teams that were official OBRA teams in 2013 are eligible to vote at
> the annual meeting.
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
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velodad@comcast.net

Thank you for bringing that one up. I will make sure that my team is aware of this and votes against that one in particular. Seems very odd, I am curious the reason it was thought to be needed? I would be pissed if I was told I could not do the obra crit championships because I don’t have a team ... as would a few others.

Jamie

On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Brian Ratliff wrote:

Maybe this isn't the place, but what triggered the Cat 1/2 "team" rule for consideration? Seems against the grass-roots nature of OBRA and frankly a little nonsensical. More to the point, if I, by some stroke of luck/training, make it into Cat 2 on the road (come on... not THAT big of a stretch...;) ), I'm all of the sudden barred from major races because my team is made up of 4 other trackies?

Brian

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Candi Murray wrote:

If you, or a team representative is not attending the meeting, please send along your vote

Candi

On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:40 PM, "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:

> Here they are!
>
> http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Board_Candidates.pdf
>
> http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Rule_Change_Proposals.pdf
>
> Teams that were official OBRA teams in 2013 are eligible to vote at
> the annual meeting.
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
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Candi Murray

ANyone can suggest rule changes. That is the purpose of the annual meeting. To discuss and vote on possible changes.
I agree that this particular one seems to be against the inclusiveness that OBRA works so hard to encourage.
In my humble opinion, i would vote against all of the proposed changes.

Candi

On Feb 5, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Brian Ratliff wrote:

> Maybe this isn't the place, but what triggered the Cat 1/2 "team" rule for consideration? Seems against the grass-roots nature of OBRA and frankly a little nonsensical. More to the point, if I, by some stroke of luck/training, make it into Cat 2 on the road (come on... not THAT big of a stretch...;) ), I'm all of the sudden barred from major races because my team is made up of 4 other trackies?
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Candi Murray wrote:
> If you, or a team representative is not attending the meeting, please send along your vote
>
> Candi
>
> On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:40 PM, "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:
>
> > Here they are!
> >
> > http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Board_Candidates.pdf
> >
> > http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Rule_Change_Proposals.pdf
> >
> > Teams that were official OBRA teams in 2013 are eligible to vote at
> > the annual meeting.
> >
> > --
> > Kenji Sugahara
> > Executive Director
> > Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> > Phone: 503-278-5550
> > http://www.obra.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >
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Brian Ratliff

Maybe this isn't the place, but what triggered the Cat 1/2 "team" rule for
consideration? Seems against the grass-roots nature of OBRA and frankly a
little nonsensical. More to the point, if I, by some stroke of
luck/training, make it into Cat 2 on the road (come on... not THAT big of a
stretch...;) ), I'm all of the sudden barred from major races because my
team is made up of 4 other trackies?

Brian

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Candi Murray wrote:

> If you, or a team representative is not attending the meeting, please send
> along your vote
>
> Candi
>
> On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:40 PM, "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:
>
> > Here they are!
> >
> > http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Board_Candidates.pdf
> >
> > http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Rule_Change_Proposals.pdf
> >
> > Teams that were official OBRA teams in 2013 are eligible to vote at
> > the annual meeting.
> >
> > --
> > Kenji Sugahara
> > Executive Director
> > Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> > Phone: 503-278-5550
> > http://www.obra.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >
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Candi Murray

If you, or a team representative is not attending the meeting, please send along your vote

Candi

On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:40 PM, "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:

> Here they are!
>
> http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Board_Candidates.pdf
>
> http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Rule_Change_Proposals.pdf
>
> Teams that were official OBRA teams in 2013 are eligible to vote at
> the annual meeting.
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>

T. Kenji Sugahara

Here they are!

http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Board_Candidates.pdf

http://www.obra.org/pdfs/2014_Rule_Change_Proposals.pdf

Teams that were official OBRA teams in 2013 are eligible to vote at
the annual meeting.

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org